So what do you think of this? -- myArmoury.com

Russ Ellis · Industry Professional

So I posted a link over at netsword for some guy that was looking for an inexpensive Korean type sword. I hadn't been to their site for a while so went to check it out. My tastes have changed rather a lot from when I purchased that first KC29 lo these many moons ago so I wasn't interested in most of what I saw. However I did notice this guy:

What do you all think? Now cinqueadea normally aren't my thing but this one doesn't look half bad I didn't think. Anyone care to break it down for me?

Patrick Kelly · Posted: Sun 07 Sep, 2003 11:08 pm Post subject:

It looks fairly close to some originals that I've seen (in photos). The fullers look pretty clean, and I like the grip. What's their asking price on that one?

Björn Hellqvist · myArmoury Alumni

Uh. The best parts are the grip and guard, but the pommel looks like some 1930's machine part, and the fullering of the blade (if the pic does it justice) looks very basic and primitive, without the elegance of real cinquedas.

Patrick Kelly · Posted: Sun 07 Sep, 2003 11:17 pm Post subject:

"........but the pommel looks like some 1930's machine part"

Hmmmmm. The Henry Ford comemerative Cinquedea, curtesy of the Franklin Mint?

Mike Fletcher · Posted: Mon 08 Sep, 2003 10:07 am Post subject:

Hey Russ,
Not bad, but I think I still prefer the cinqueda from Lutel.

Ben Sweet has one and posted some nice pics over at SFI a while back.

Regards,

Mike

David Wilson · Posted: Mon 08 Sep, 2003 1:07 pm Post subject:

I handled one of those earlier this year. It actually looks better in the flesh than the pics show. Overall, it wasn't bad, though not quite my cup of tea. It was rather hilt-biased. In any case, Cecil seemed unsure if they were going to make any more, as it wasn't a great seller and was difficult to manufacture, so it may be a moot point at this juncture.

Ben Sweet · Posted: Mon 08 Sep, 2003 4:09 pm Post subject: here ya go

the Lutel Cinquedea was $230 and the Lutel Dagger $144 sharpened and shipped total $420 / ordered 13/3/02 rec 4/16/03

Eugene George · Posted: Mon 08 Sep, 2003 4:44 pm Post subject: Short reply...

Have both... Like the Lutel better...

Apologies for the terse post just got back from a 4 hour drive...

Chris Holzman · Posted: Mon 08 Sep, 2003 11:48 pm Post subject: Re: Short reply...

Russ Ellis · Industry Professional

Well after seeing the lutel one I have to say I like it better too, but the Kris Cutlery version is only 175 so there is a significant price differential.

Roger Hooper · Posted: Wed 10 Sep, 2003 9:44 am Post subject:

Here is a Tinker Cinquedea with a 16 inch long blade -

Mike Fletcher · Posted: Wed 10 Sep, 2003 9:47 am Post subject:

Mike Fletcher · Posted: Wed 10 Sep, 2003 10:04 am Post subject: Dagnabit!

Michael L Smith · Posted: Wed 10 Sep, 2003 11:15 am Post subject:

I own the Del Tin cinquedea and I like it a lot. A simplier design than most on the market, but not ahistorical. I'd recommend it to anyone.

Regards

Nathan Robinson · myArmoury Admin

Russ, I'm glad to see a post about the Cinquedea. It doesn't seem to get a lot of attention from the on-line sword community. I probably already make this obvious about myself, but I tend to like the more unusual, or perhaps more accurately "less typical", pieces that history has brought us. The Cinquedea is a definite example of a really great line of evolution of the renaissance. I like them quite a bit.

Authentic pieces come in all shapes and sizes; with various degrees of decoration and complexity. Fullers, engravings, proportions, and materials all varied quite a bit.

I like the KC version, but have heard it's quite heavy and somewhat "dead" in the hand. I know that many of these types of weapons were rather heavy for the size, but one would hope that each piece still managed to be maneuverable and usable for its purposes.

I rather like the J.F. Schroeder piece that I own:

This is one of the few modern reproductions that I've seen that both replicate a specific example, and also has a similar level of decoration (etching, in this case) as many originals. Sadly, it's no longer being produced.

I can also recommend the Del Tin version. I once owned one and despite it being a simplified design, it's quite attractive while also being maneuverable, if not the slightest bit heavy.

Russ Ellis · Industry Professional

Like the Schroeder piece, I need to go look up the statistics on that one. Mr. Evans had a very nice one he was working on but had not completed at the Blade show. I wish I could see a picture of the finished piece.