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Jason Butch Collins
Location: jacksonville nc Joined: 29 Mar 2009
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Posted: Tue 29 Jun, 2010 8:26 pm Post subject: Carp's Tongue |
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For the most part the hallstatt and leaf style blades are the most popular. What of the Carp's tongue blade. Who used these blades, Oakeshott wrote "may have been in S.Britain" but finds all over even one at Paris. Why the narrowing? Penetrate armor,was only bronze age or like a boar sword to only go so deep as to kill and still be able to pull sword out? I did google but mostly fish came up.
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Jeroen Zuiderwijk
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Posted: Wed 30 Jun, 2010 4:54 am Post subject: Re: Carp's Tongue |
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Jason Butch Collins wrote: | For the most part the hallstatt and leaf style blades are the most popular. What of the Carp's tongue blade. Who used these blades, Oakeshott wrote "may have been in S.Britain" but finds all over even one at Paris. | They are pretty widespread, occuring from south-east Britain (around the Thames area) down to Spain and Italy.
Quote: | Why the narrowing? Penetrate armor,was only bronze age or like a boar sword to only go so deep as to kill and still be able to pull sword out? |
It won't work against metal armour, and for leather IMO a tin and wide tip with very sharp edges would work better (the thinner, the easier it cuts open the hole, the thinner and the less resistance from pressing the leather apart). My personal guess is that it's to penetrate fabric. It's not going to cut through the fibers (fabric is hard to cut through), but a narrow point will press the fibers apart and creating a hole that way.
Jeroen Zuiderwijk
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Matthew Amt
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Posted: Wed 30 Jun, 2010 4:59 am Post subject: |
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Aren't they interesting? They were even used in Sardinia. I doubt we can determine the "why" of that shape, but it's not for armor-piercing. There wasn't much armor to pierce, and swords aren't made to do that sort of thing anyway. More likely, the shape has an affect on balance that was desirable. Or maybe they just thought it was cool!
Matthew
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