A 'what do you call it' cleaver like sword.
Good day,


I'm interested in the following. In the Maciejowski Bible there are many depictions of cleaverlike swords. I really like the form of these weapons, but hadn't seem them any where else. That was until I was looking through the 'Romance de Alexander' illustrated roughly hundred years later. I kind off fell in love with this last one and ordered a replica. It is still a work in progress thou.

I know this doesn't make all that much of historical evidence for the existence of such swords or what ever they are. I was wondering if anyone had more information or the name what these weapons are called?







Two depictions in maciejowski Bible



The one from 'the 'Romance the Alexander'. This part was probably drawn around 1340.


I really would appreciate any information
Hello, Alex.

Since this topic felt familiar I did a search, and you may want to read through this old thread: http://www.myArmoury.com/talk/viewtopic.php?t=927
Thanx. This is a great help.

I've used the term Glaive always for a longer polearm. But could go on as one I suppose.
Warbrand is also quit catchy. Brand is also old dutch for sword/blade. So It could present it as a 'Strijdbrand' in dutch.
Most people I know generally call them "choppers" or Morgan blades (me and one other person).

M.
M. Eversberg II wrote:
Most people I know generally call them "choppers" or Morgan blades (me and one other person).

M.


Why Morgan Blades?

My English could be lacking here but were does Morgan refer to? Or did I miss something
Alex Hoogstraten wrote:

Why Morgan Blades?

My English could be lacking here but were does Morgan refer to? Or did I miss something


Most of the collection of illustrated Bible stories now often called the Maciejowski Bible rests in the Pierpont Morgan Library in New York. I'm guessing that's why they call them Morgan.
I've just noticed this post and while I can't speak to what Kristians might have called them, the Chinese have a version of this weapon known as the Da Dao (or 'Big Knife' and sometimes horse chopper sword).
Wen Hu wrote:
I've just noticed this post and while I can't speak to what Kristians might have called them, the Chinese have a version of this weapon known as the Da Dao (or 'Big Knife' and sometimes horse chopper sword).


Thanx. I've been looking for Da Dao images. But they look more look big Fachions to me. Do you have an image of a Da Dao thats looks more the weapons above?

But 'Horse Chopper' was a nice ring to it.

edit:

Wait. Just found something
[ Linked Image ]

It's coming closer
Chad Arnow wrote:
Alex Hoogstraten wrote:

Why Morgan Blades?

My English could be lacking here but were does Morgan refer to? Or did I miss something


Most of the collection of illustrated Bible stories now often called the Maciejowski Bible rests in the Pierpont Morgan Library in New York. I'm guessing that's why they call them Morgan.


Precisely :)

Also, I can't pronounce Maciejowski, so I just call it the Morgan Bible.

M.
I would think most of these swords, even th eones without a point, could be reasonably called falchions although like a lot of sword verbage, we are not sure when exactly that term came to be used. in period I suspect there were probably lots of nicknames for them in various languages.

here is a link to the morgan library images

http://www.themorgan.org/exhibitions/exhibOnl...nlineKings

Del Tin makes a reproduction of a chopper sword that seems to be based directly on an image in folio 3v
Something like mach-ay-yowf-ski
What about Mah-chee-yov-ski?

That's how I've pronounced it for a few years.
I call them cleavers... :p .

I do like the idea of the morgan bible though...quite clever.
Hisham Gaballa wrote:
What about Mah-chee-yov-ski?

That's how I've pronounced it for a few years.


I asked a Polish speaker a few years ago and that is how he told me to pronounce it.
Thom R. wrote:
Del Tin makes a reproduction of a chopper sword that seems to be based directly on an image in folio 3v


Jiri krondac also offers this one.
I always figured it was something like Mac-a-joe-ski. Alas, not all that important. Morgan bible.

Didn't Tinker create one of these a few years back?

M.

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