I'm curious how many Del Tin owners have their DTs sharpened.
Thanks, Jon
| Larry New wrote: |
My favorite is the two-hand Scottish claymore. I purchased my first one from MRL way before the days of the internet...lol. Its at least 25 years old and looks as amazing as the day it arrived. The 59 inch beast is a sight to behold in person yet is lighter and swifter in hand than it may appear. I still have the MRL catalog I ordered it from and it makes special note of Krupp steel. I own many two hand claymores but this early Del Tin is just so elegantly menacing.
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sorry larry but which is the del tin and which is the MRL claymore?, the biggest one in the middle with the very long quillons looks alot lie the hanwei lowlander.
i dont own this sword and i dont even know if its a reasonbly accurate replica http://www.deltin.net/201a.htm
ever since seeing the movie vercengetorix being one of the first movies i watched about the romans (aside from gladiator). and i loved it. ever since then ive always had abit of a softspot for the anthromorphic hilted celtic sword even if celtic reenactment isnt really in my sights
and speaking for a sword thats always captured my heart, is the old MRL leif erikkson sword. when i saw that online i think it was one of the first times i saw such a exquisite and beautiful viking sword..
http://www.swordforum.com/forums/attachment.p...1076210761
Hi to all!
I don't have a big experience :) , but I've just ordered the Del Tin 5149: it has a wonderful blade and I like very much the steel wire solution for the grip!
I don't have a big experience :) , but I've just ordered the Del Tin 5149: it has a wonderful blade and I like very much the steel wire solution for the grip!
| William P wrote: | ||
sorry larry but which is the del tin and which is the MRL claymore?, the biggest one in the middle with the very long quillons looks alot lie the hanwei lowlander. i dont own this sword and i dont even know if its a reasonbly accurate replica http://www.deltin.net/201a.htm ever since seeing the movie vercengetorix being one of the first movies i watched about the romans (aside from gladiator). and i loved it. ever since then ive always had abit of a softspot for the anthromorphic hilted celtic sword even if celtic reenactment isnt really in my sights and speaking for a sword thats always captured my heart, is the old MRL leif erikkson sword. when i saw that online i think it was one of the first times i saw such a exquisite and beautiful viking sword.. http://www.swordforum.com/forums/attachment.p...1076210761 |
My apologies...the Del Tin is the claymore on the left. Way back when Del Tin supplied swords to MRL which is where I purchased it.....Larry
My favorite Del Tin was always the 2070 seventh century.
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i dont own this sword and i dont even know if its a reasonbly accurate replica http://www.deltin.net/201a.htm ever since seeing the movie vercengetorix being one of the first movies i watched about the romans (aside from gladiator). and i loved it. ever since then ive always had abit of a softspot for the anthromorphic hilted celtic sword even if celtic reenactment isnt really in my sights |
The 201a is a reasonably accurate replica (except for the "Janussary" head. Most "heads" on Celtic anthropomorphic swords are single-sided AFAIK. The DT is double-sided). Anyway it's more accurate than those cheap leaf-bladed "celtic" swords with the art-deco-looking hilts. It's also a dandy little sword, very nimble and quick in the hand.
I also got my first DT from MRL, back in the day (the falcata).... it was my first "quality" sword, which introduced me to a greater world.... I ordered it through a catalog -- No internet back then (not for me, anyway)!
| Raymond Deancona wrote: |
| My favorite Del Tin was always the 2070 seventh century. |
Good choice -- one of my faves too!
| Bruno Giordan wrote: |
| Del Tin development is hampered by the absurdities of the italian law, which still classifies sharp blades as real wepons, so that to build sharpies one should receive a permit for weapon building, while having to undergo much red tape to sell even a single sword, esp. Abroad.
This way no swordmaker can evolve in Italy, being forced to build thicker blades devoid of a true historical geometry. Such blades cannot fairly compete with historically correct blades, regardless of how much care one could put in reproducing hilt components and blade profile. Its a big problem we have in Italy, as while firerms maker and enthusiasts may count on a powerful lobby, blademakers and blade enthusiasts are too few to cause a change in archaic laws. Possibly a solution would be for Mr Deltin and others to have their blades finished elsewhere in the world where laws are more modern. Otherwise any Italian sword industry is doomed to be never fully born. |
Excellent points. With such a socialist / Marxist oriented country, entrepreneurs have little chance. Well, come to think of it, the entire EU is going broke as fast or faster than the US under such an unsustainable system
However, I would think that at the price point Del Tin now charges (my just arrived DT 5155 was ca. $510,00, sharpened & shipped from Kult of Athena) manufacturing in the US could easily produce the type of swords that collectors would buy more of and appreciate at that price. Of course, the Del Tin family may not like the idea of leaving their homeland.
A pity, they do churn out some nice pieces, my 5155 is an example, which I'm currently touching up a bit to get it up to speed. But costs (read: excessive taxes) imposed on them certainly compromise their efforts and have prevented them from being closer to the world class production makers, Arms & Armour and Albion.
Jon
I like quite a few of my Del Tin ( Well actually all my Del Tins. ;) :D ) but I really like the DT6168
http://www.kultofathena.com/product.asp?item=...Half+Sword
Very nice handling complex grip Hand and a Half sword. ( I really should take the time to take some pics of mine and write a short review of it soon ).
I also like this one for it's unique thick central ridge: DT5146
http://www.kultofathena.com/product.asp?item=...on+Randeck
http://www.kultofathena.com/product.asp?item=...Half+Sword
Very nice handling complex grip Hand and a Half sword. ( I really should take the time to take some pics of mine and write a short review of it soon ).
I also like this one for it's unique thick central ridge: DT5146
http://www.kultofathena.com/product.asp?item=...on+Randeck
| Bruno Giordan wrote: |
| Del Tin development is hampered by the absurdities of the italian law, which still classifies sharp blades as real wepons, so that to build sharpies one should receive a permit for weapon building, while having to undergo much red tape to sell even a single sword, esp. Abroad.
This way no swordmaker can evolve in Italy, being forced to build thicker blades devoid of a true historical geometry. Such blades cannot fairly compete with historically correct blades, regardless of how much care one could put in reproducing hilt components and blade profile. Its a big problem we have in Italy, as while firerms maker and enthusiasts may count on a powerful lobby, blademakers and blade enthusiasts are too few to cause a change in archaic laws. Possibly a solution would be for Mr Deltin and others to have their blades finished elsewhere in the world where laws are more modern. Otherwise any italian sword industry is doomed to be never fully born. |
you mention archaic laws...
i cant help but wonder HOW archaic these laws are, i mean english law has multiple very old laws still technically in effect like for example its still illegal to attend parliment wearing armour.
and that legally people can still shoot a bow in a park on sundays due to the old law calling for all able bodied men to practice archery every sunday as a way of providing longbowmen for the army.
i cant help but wonder if these laws are like those which prevented people of certain ranks from wearing swords within the limits of italian cities thus leading to the development of the cinquedea.
possibly?
These legal discussions are off-topic for this thread. They also don't fit well with this site in general. Let's focus on the OP's question.
good point, sorry, possibly split it into another thread if another thread on really old laws doesnt exist.. (i havent yet looked though)
At one time, my favorite was DT5156. I bought it about a dozen years ago through Albion. That model had fallen out of del Tin's line-up, but the Albionites had a special affection for it and somehow got Fulvio to make it for them. It was a big, heavyish sword - I consider it to be a late, 15thC XIIIa, though many see it as a XX. Below is a photo that I tool back then.
Del Tin later revived this model, but modified it considerably. You can see it HERE at KOA. They changed the pommel, lengthened the grip, and lengthened the blade from 33" to 37.5". It's not the same sword.
Compare the specs of my DT5156 with the newer model over at KOA
OL - 44"
BL - 33.75"
BW at guard - 1.9"
Grip Length - 7.4"
COG - 4.5"
COP - 27.5"
Weight - 3.9 lbs. (though most came in at about 4.1 lbs.
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The old DT5156
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The oldADT5156 with grip made by Albion
Del Tin later revived this model, but modified it considerably. You can see it HERE at KOA. They changed the pommel, lengthened the grip, and lengthened the blade from 33" to 37.5". It's not the same sword.
Compare the specs of my DT5156 with the newer model over at KOA
OL - 44"
BL - 33.75"
BW at guard - 1.9"
Grip Length - 7.4"
COG - 4.5"
COP - 27.5"
Weight - 3.9 lbs. (though most came in at about 4.1 lbs.
Attachment: 42.93 KBThe old DT5156
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I have an odd fondness for the Del Tin 201/A - the Celtic Anthropomorphic. So much so that I regret selling mine, and if any of you has one you'd like money for...
Perhaps I like it for the surprise. It looks like it should handle like a crowbar. It's not a pretty sword - the proportions are all wrong, that massively-looking wide blade, under that skinny hilt...you expect it to have a POB halfway to the point...
But since I'm a fighter first and a sword collector a distant second, it's all about the handing. And the DT201/A handles so nice. It's fast, when used as a cutter, which IIRC the Romans said the Celtic sword were, primarily.
Anyway, nostalgia over.
Perhaps I like it for the surprise. It looks like it should handle like a crowbar. It's not a pretty sword - the proportions are all wrong, that massively-looking wide blade, under that skinny hilt...you expect it to have a POB halfway to the point...
But since I'm a fighter first and a sword collector a distant second, it's all about the handing. And the DT201/A handles so nice. It's fast, when used as a cutter, which IIRC the Romans said the Celtic sword were, primarily.
Anyway, nostalgia over.
This is a really old thread, but its nice to read.
I have a bunch of Del Tins now and I'm happy with all of them. No, they aren't as agile or historically correct as some offerings out there, but I really like the diversity of their line up and they are all well built. And several of them are stand out pieces. And it's hard to argue with the price/quality ratio. I'd like to tweak a couple things on some of them, a more slender handle here, a more finely-done hilt there, and better blade work on all. But I'm glad I started to collect them.
DT 2070 Migration Era 7th Century
DT 2071 Longbard Ring Hilt
DT 5144 14th Century
DT 2169 Backsword
DT 5159 Infantry Hanger
DT 6153 Italian Falchion
Two of those aren't sharpened since they were used, the rest were sharpened from KOA. I pick up and play with the 5159 the most; although the handle is a little clunky, it's a nice hanger overall.
There's six more DTs I'd like to have, or at least handle, besides the Anthro hilt, one I'm sad I missed. Hope they bring it back.
DT6166 Infantryman sword
DT5157 Gothic
DT5153 Venetian Infantry
DT5149 14th Century
202a Falcata
and one of the Schiavonescas DT5152 or DT2152. And I think some of their daggers look great. I just appreciate that DT has a lot of things not commonly seen.
I have a bunch of Del Tins now and I'm happy with all of them. No, they aren't as agile or historically correct as some offerings out there, but I really like the diversity of their line up and they are all well built. And several of them are stand out pieces. And it's hard to argue with the price/quality ratio. I'd like to tweak a couple things on some of them, a more slender handle here, a more finely-done hilt there, and better blade work on all. But I'm glad I started to collect them.
DT 2070 Migration Era 7th Century
DT 2071 Longbard Ring Hilt
DT 5144 14th Century
DT 2169 Backsword
DT 5159 Infantry Hanger
DT 6153 Italian Falchion
Two of those aren't sharpened since they were used, the rest were sharpened from KOA. I pick up and play with the 5159 the most; although the handle is a little clunky, it's a nice hanger overall.
There's six more DTs I'd like to have, or at least handle, besides the Anthro hilt, one I'm sad I missed. Hope they bring it back.
DT6166 Infantryman sword
DT5157 Gothic
DT5153 Venetian Infantry
DT5149 14th Century
202a Falcata
and one of the Schiavonescas DT5152 or DT2152. And I think some of their daggers look great. I just appreciate that DT has a lot of things not commonly seen.
I have two, but my favourite would be the San Galgano. Not too heavy and yeah I wish it was sharpened. I love it’s somplicity.
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