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M. Eversberg II




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PostPosted: Tue 27 Oct, 2009 6:50 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

I'd only wear one I'm qualified to use.

Else is just heavy jewelry.

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Craig Holt





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PostPosted: Tue 27 Oct, 2009 1:39 pm    Post subject: although...         Reply with quote

I must say I am still saving for that Subotai redux. Short, handy, and certainly not in the way. A little barbaric in nature but I think it would do in a pinch.
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Richard Eskite




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PostPosted: Tue 27 Oct, 2009 6:46 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

The blackthorn sword cane wielded by Alex (Malcolm McDowell) in Clockwork Orange. I've been looking for a replica of that prop since the 70s.
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PostPosted: Tue 27 Oct, 2009 7:04 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

I don't know, maybe this should be split off and put on a different topic maybe the .com Gods can decide that!

Does it strike anyone else that we're sort of short changing the question? What would a contemporary society be like in which one either routinely wore a sword or had the option of wearing a sword? I noticed some contributors suggested that they'd have the sword on one hip and a Beretta or a 45 on the the other. Swords AND guns? Everybody would be as nervous as a cat in a rocking chair factory! Big Grin

It wouldn't even be like a society that allows dueling because the duelists didn't necessarily carry weapons all the time. Not that they actually provide much protection but would there even be police or just a lot of crews to clean up the messes?
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M. Eversberg II




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PostPosted: Tue 27 Oct, 2009 8:26 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Fortunately, it's all fantasy here so we need not worry about that Wink

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Paul Hansen




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PostPosted: Wed 28 Oct, 2009 12:43 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

As Herbert noted, there are currently countries (like Austria apparently) where wearing a sword is technically legal.

So what is lacking in such countries is social acceptance.

Perhaps it's similar to carrying a pocket knife: it's perfectly legal but might raise some eyebrows depending on the circumstances.

So what is needed, is a campaign that swords are cool and NOT a menace to society.

That even sounds quite reasonable to me. Happy

I mean, I have a few swords (not all) on the wall of my living room and if I get any comments at all (not nearly always) they are generally favourable. I don't think I've ever had a negative comment.

So if they are legal why not wear them at selected occasions? At a white tie gala event, I guess that a nice smallsword is perfectly appropriate. As is a messer when out hunting. When one is just shopping for groceries, than perhaps not...
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PostPosted: Wed 28 Oct, 2009 3:15 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

I'm quite active in 18th Century Living History in the Ohio Valley region, and often wear various swords when dressed out in my kit. Also, I'm part of the Scottish Society of Louisville, and will occasionally wear a Highland baskethilted Claymore and dirk when in formal wear (or even suedo-historical garb). While I often gets looks, they are usually approving or at least just curious, and I have never been approached by a police officer or other authority figure in a negative way. I DO take care to not brandish my blade, point it at anyone, make a threatening gesture, or handle a weapon if there's any hint of uneasyness. It's all about discretion and good judgement when going out and about with your blades, in my experience.
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PostPosted: Wed 28 Oct, 2009 9:22 pm    Post subject: i agree         Reply with quote

Yes this is all the best sort of 'what if' fantasy. It will never happen but it is fun to see what others would have on their sides as well. I love the diversity from Japanese to Viking and European all the way to falchions and small swords. It would truely be a wonder to behold. As for the previous comment about people being nervous..i disagree. Like the saying goes..."an armed society is a polite society". I think those of us who study would know who are real 'threats' and who are just wearing one because they can. I also think there would be a great fellowship between the swordsmen and women. Also this may strike you as ridiculous as it has me but I have learned through another forum the members of some White Supremecist Groups are trying to get Public Dueling legalized. Thankfully they don't have a prayer but they do believe it is their right or something???? Again I think swords in society would have something of a positive effect. Certainly have something to talk about in the grocery store lines. "Is that a Powning?" "Wow, really excellentt sword you must be proud..yes, these are Lundemo's"!! Better than reading the tabloids!!!
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PostPosted: Thu 29 Oct, 2009 12:12 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Just about?

A Langes Messer and buckler.

Sword and gun? 1911a1 and a 1917 Cold Steel Naval Cutlass. (They went together at one time already Happy )

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M. Eversberg II




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PostPosted: Thu 29 Oct, 2009 5:42 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Wearing a sword is legal in my county except on Federal property.

I don't do it though, because it would be a pain to have to put it on everytime I get out of the car, or take it off every time I get in...not to mention sitting.

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PostPosted: Thu 29 Oct, 2009 11:16 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

A very interesting topic!

I think I would wear a saber with some decoration to it. It would still be a weapon but could be perceived as a status symbol or perhaps something akin to jewelry. So a saber and maybe a well decorated Russian Kindjal. Austria also sounds like a very interesting place, next time I'm there I should look up the local laws and maybe wear a saber and see what happens. Perhaps I should also check with the police there first, just to be safe.

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PostPosted: Thu 29 Oct, 2009 11:26 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

A nice yatagan would look great on one's hip. But I would probably choose a viking sword or a 30" langsax. Wink
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PostPosted: Thu 29 Oct, 2009 3:43 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

It would have to be the albion Sempach, or any of the tinker peirce line of longswords.
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Anders Backlund




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PostPosted: Fri 30 Oct, 2009 7:49 am    Post subject: Re: Carrying A Sword         Reply with quote

Bill Love wrote:
Probably a matte blued Coustille, Cinquedea or Arming Sword. Anything bigger or brighter and the Chicken Littles out there would launch a whole new belief system based on the compensation myth. I can already hear the howls and hand wringing--"Does 'packing edge' make you feel like a man? Do you have a permit for that assault Messer? Why do you feel you need a blade longer than ___ (insert politically correct length here)?


Rubbish, of course. One should carry a sword of the lenght one is comfortable with.

Personally, I wouldn't feel right carrying anything under 30. (Another reason I have issues with katana - most of them are very short.)

The sword is an ode to the strife of mankind.

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PostPosted: Fri 30 Oct, 2009 1:28 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

I agree with the nice hangar or cutlass crowd, but as a fashion statement, it would be awesome to afford something like the following Masters of Fire designs.

This one for weekdays:
http://www.arscives.com/mastersofire/images/5...-sword.jpg

Maybe this one for special occasions:
http://www.arscives.com/mastersofire/images/17-damascus-saber.jpg

In reality, I like to be unencumbered, so I'd probably go without.


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PostPosted: Fri 30 Oct, 2009 4:10 pm    Post subject: Carry Sword         Reply with quote

Anders,

The length thing was a jab at the 1960s-vintage gun laws in this country. Did you know that a shotgun with a barrel 18" or longer is a sporting weapon while the same gun with a barrel 1/100" shorter than 18" is a free ticket to a felony conviction?

"History is a set of lies agreed upon."
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Craig Holt





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PostPosted: Fri 30 Oct, 2009 9:17 pm    Post subject: one more         Reply with quote

but Anders, he forgot to add "is that a sword or are you just happy to see me?"
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PostPosted: Sat 31 Oct, 2009 7:41 pm    Post subject: Tough Question         Reply with quote

I find I have difficulty with medeival swords especially the single handed variety. The sword that I cut best with is the Katana because it handles like a dream, cuts like a scapel, and feels light as a feather. Furthermore, it can take abuse if well made. However, I would like a secondary sword such as a Spartan Lakonian for close in type encounters.

If I were limited to a medieval sword, I think my Albion Reeve fits the bill for me carried on a baldric. It is light, sharp, and well balanced as well as short enough to carry with ease. It tendes to give me confidence especially if I were hardput and had to use it. But sword play is a young man's game and one must be quick. I am older and therefore slower so I would have to carry a pocket full of sand to throw in my opponent's eyes so I could make a quick slash and run like mad! Eek! Eek! Eek!

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Craig Holt





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PostPosted: Sat 31 Oct, 2009 8:18 pm    Post subject: i disagree         Reply with quote

I kinda disagree there Harry. I see it as more of a thinking mans game as well as responses ingrained through consistant training. I mean here you have Dan Inosanto who isnt a spring chicken and would eat me alive in a fight. There is Hatsumi-sensei who is in his 80's now I believe and that is a man I would unashmedly flee from!! The sand IS a good idea though I'll remember that one. We have plenty of it here in TX to spare anyway.
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PostPosted: Sun 01 Nov, 2009 11:03 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

This 17th century German rapier would be fun to wear around town.


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