I'm starting an XVIIIc project and I need your help. Earlier threads on this subject failed to turn up much info but I'll post my own appeal. I know the Met example and I've seen Peter Johnsson's breathtaking interpretations of the type. Does anybody know of any example of an XVIIIc with the horizontally recurved, ribbon-like cross that Oakeshott believed was typical? I'll take any reference--museums, graves, artwork, etc. Peter's sketch for Albion shows a cross of this type, but that's the only depiction I can find.

I'm going to comb my own sources, but perhaps some of you have stumbled across one of these in some small regional museum. Please share!

I can't tell if this is an XVIIIc (painted ca. 1495)....but just look at this thing! :eek:

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Hi Sean,

Not sure what you mean exactly by an "horizontally recurved, ribbon-like cross" but there is a beautifull type XVIIIc at the Royal Armouries in leeds that is very similar to the one Peter Johnson made. Notice the sandwitch grip, similar to the ones found on many messers, but very unusual on a bastard sword like this one.

Cheers,

Julien

bastard sword, possibly german, late XIV century
It bears arabic inscriptions that indicates it was kept in the armouries in Alexandria

Very helpful! Thanks! And it's thought to be late 15th c? I thought all of the Alexandria swords were earlier than that....

There's one at the Philadelphia Museum of Art that looks similar to the Leeds one (and the one at the Met, and the one by Peter Johnsson).
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http://www.philamuseum.org/collections/perman...mulR=30564


Seems to be a fairly common style. I kind of like it more than the S-shaped cross personally.

Peter's 'Master's of Fire' piece is just pure perfection....

Not enough XVIIc blades around, so I heartily aprove of this project (not that I didn't aprove of others btw, they have all been very cool, but this one looks like it will be very very cool)
Someone wanna post a linkt to the Masters of fire XVIIIc blade?

Here are Peter's (known) XVIIIc examples. See the threads below for details:

http://www.myArmoury.com/talk/viewtopic.php?t...ght=xviiic

http://www.myArmoury.com/talk/viewtopic.php?t=13123

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I cry tears of joy everytime I see the Master's of Fire sword. That is my favorite sword of all time. :)

Good luck with the project, Sean. I am certian you will do quite well as you always do!

I'd say this is fairly typical, although the blade isn't seen:

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Kreuzigung Christi

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Kunstwerk: Temperamalerei-Holz ; Einrichtung sakral ; Flügelaltar ; Tirol(?) ; Mt:27:033-036 , Mk:15:022-041 , Lk:23:033-049 , Jo:19:016-030
Dokumentation: 1490 ; 1500 ; Sand in Taufers ; Italien ; Südtirol ; Filialkirche St. Walburg
Anmerkungen: Sand in Taufers, St. Walburg ; Weingartner Josef: Die Kunstdenkmäler Südtirols, Bd. I Bozen, Innsbruck 1973, S. 377