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PostPosted: Mon 01 Jun, 2009 10:29 am    Post subject: What kind of armour is this? Maximilian? Something else?         Reply with quote

This is one of the strangest and most elaborate armours I have ever seen:



It's Joachim II "Hector," elector of Brandenburg. The breastplate and tassets look Maximilian in style - the metal fluting - but those thick braided bands around the arms and legs are like nothing I've ever seen before. Is there a name for this kind of armour?

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PostPosted: Mon 01 Jun, 2009 10:44 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

The bands are a roping style like a "puff and slash" theme that borrows from fashion.
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PostPosted: Mon 01 Jun, 2009 10:45 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

It looks Maximilian to me. Some Maximilian suits (and later ones) have roped borders and sections. These just seem (very) exaggerated.
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PostPosted: Mon 01 Jun, 2009 12:30 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

If you don't mind me asking, where did you find this picture? I'm interested in art from this period which depicts the armour and costume of the time.
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PostPosted: Mon 01 Jun, 2009 11:14 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

That is Maximilian in the Landschnecht fashion, of the middle to later years of the period of the Maximilian armour craze.
Looks different because all we ever see is the "normal" Maximilian armour in most collections, but there was actually a lot of this made like the one seen in the painting. But, for the soldier, it was in pieces. This guy in the painting was pretty wealthy, obviously, so complete harness like this was a fashion craze for nobles, until it went out of style.
I like this type, and it will probably the next type I have made for me.
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PostPosted: Tue 02 Jun, 2009 11:17 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

It can be found on Wikimedia Commons. They actually have a decent selection of armour art there if you know where to look--a lot of high-res images of 15th century swiss chronicle illuminations.
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PostPosted: Wed 03 Jun, 2009 11:26 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

The "Knight and the Blast Furnance" has a picture of an armour of this type and style.

My copy is loaned out right now, or I would dig up the picture.
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PostPosted: Wed 03 Jun, 2009 1:35 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

William Knight wrote:
It can be found on Wikimedia Commons. They actually have a decent selection of armour art there if you know where to look--a lot of high-res images of 15th century swiss chronicle illuminations.


Thanks, William!
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PostPosted: Fri 17 Jul, 2009 9:15 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Chad Arnow wrote:
It looks Maximilian to me. Some Maximilian suits (and later ones) have roped borders and sections. These just seem (very) exaggerated.


It is just the painter's own style, a bit distorting perspective.

There is a tendency in german art of this period at distorting shapes in a way we could call "modernist": a little bit of the style of Salvador Dalì but much ante litteram.
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