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Timo Nieminen




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PostPosted: Fri 28 Aug, 2009 2:37 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Leo Todeschini wrote:

The other unexpected thing were the spikes; for me I would expect the anthropromorphic theme to run from the face through the rest of the piece and was not expecting it to be geometric at all.


The spikes are just part of the Bart Simpson theme!

Or, more seriously, decorative (or should that be "decorative"?) and effective, no compromises needed.

Without the spikes, it might not be officially a mace here in Australia, and thus not be a restricted weapon. Customs says "Maces or similar articles: (a) capable of causing injury; and (b) consisting of a club or staff fitted with a flanged or spiked head", but the State says "a mace or any similar article".
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PostPosted: Fri 28 Aug, 2009 6:50 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

My guess is that the wax model that became Mr Ugly was intended to be a regular, symetric mace head, but that the maker simply decided to "do something Fun" instead of giving it a smooth finish.
I can imagine an aprentice or somesuch having a go at a spiked mace, like other example, and, after cursing at not getting the ribbons and spikes symetrical, making a face instead.
Master:"You spent bronze casting THAT!?!"
Aprentice: "But I sold three allready..."

Another point (or lack thereoff) worth noting is that the spikes on Mr Ugly are quite rounded, unlike the ones on Spike. After trying them in hand, my guess is that Spike is made to be a weapon of war, while Mr Ugly could serve as a "walking stick" kind of mace, where sharp spikes would be unpractical, and hitting people without killing them could be a pluss.

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PostPosted: Wed 16 Sep, 2009 12:12 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

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Elling Polden wrote.
My guess is that the wax model that became Mr Ugly was intended to be a regular, symetric mace head, but that the maker simply decided to "do something Fun" instead of giving it a smooth finish.


I think I read somewhere there are a few of these, so I figure it must have been a running joke/style if this is the case.

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Another point (or lack thereoff) worth noting is that the spikes on Mr Ugly are quite rounded, unlike the ones on Spike. After trying them in hand, my guess is that Spike is made to be a weapon of war, while Mr Ugly could serve as a "walking stick" kind of mace, where sharp spikes would be unpractical, and hitting people without killing them could be a pluss.


As a bronze object it won't really be armour piercing and these really are about mass impact and the spikes/studs are
really just about added mess at the receiving end, but to be hit by either would be devastating. I think they just reflect the taste of the user or maker.

Thanks again for getting the info on this.

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