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Jean Thibodeau




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PostPosted: Mon 29 Dec, 2008 8:30 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Luka Borscak wrote:

I'm not sure, but I would say no polearms. Two handed axe with a long haft maybe. And you could wear only a coif but for safety, I would use a nasal helm.


One could also wear a close fitting cervelière under or over the coif: I sort of like the cervelière under the coif as it seems to have been popular when not wearing the great helm over both and a lot of period effigies seem to show coifs over a cervelière giving a sort of " BIG " headed look. Wink Big Grin

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Elling Polden




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PostPosted: Tue 30 Dec, 2008 6:30 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

I use a chapel, as does most of my group, and we find that it provides exelent protection. As most blows that could hit the face come from above, the brim protects the face and the side of the head. Also, you can protect the face by tilting the head forward.

The first polearms to be put to use (to my knowledge) where glaives and military forks. They are around in the middle 13th c, at least, but I think the time period you are aiming for is a bit early for those.
So, two handed axes are your best bet.

Are you guys doing reenactment fighting?

"this [fight] looks curious, almost like a game. See, they are looking around them before they fall, to find a dry spot to fall on, or they are falling on their shields. Can you see blood on their cloths and weapons? No. This must be trickery."
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Jean Thibodeau




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PostPosted: Tue 30 Dec, 2008 8:58 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Elling Polden wrote:
I use a chapel, as does most of my group, and we find that it provides exelent protection. As most blows that could hit the face come from above, the brim protects the face and the side of the head. Also, you can protect the face by tilting the head forward.

The first polearms to be put to use (to my knowledge) where glaives and military forks. They are around in the middle 13th c, at least, but I think the time period you are aiming for is a bit early for those.
So, two handed axes are your best bet.

Are you guys doing reenactment fighting?


I also like the chapel de fer or kettle hat and it would give more protection than the cervelière because of the rim as you said.

The cervelière is useful as a rigid supplement to the coif in early close fitting versions but evolved into the bascinet as more of a full helm on his own than just as something to wear under the great helm.

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Andres M. Chesini Remic




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PostPosted: Tue 30 Dec, 2008 2:31 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Elling Polden wrote:
Are you guys doing reenactment fighting?


Yes we do, but mostly with sword and shield (some spear, axe and dane axe too)
We're on a scandinavian reenactment group. From the 5th to the 12th century.-

But now we're beginning a parallel group of europe around the 12 and 13th century, moslty for marketing, so we can support what we're really interested on (*sigh* =/)
We're including normans, crusaders, teutons, templars, etc...

I found some videos on internet of people fighting with kettle hats, and it's true what you say about the rim deflecting the blows (I thought it wouldn't be so efficient u^^)
I'm even considering on building one for myself =P

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