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Brad Crisler
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There you go Carl...Looks good to me...
Don, I'll buy that sword if it's for sale!!
Brad
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Don Stanko
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| Posted: Wed 10 Sep, 2008 10:21 am Post subject: |
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Thanks Chad! Thats the one.
Thanks for the offer Brad. You will be the first to know when (or if) I offer it for sale. I just cant seem to remove my grip from it yet  .
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Carl Massaro
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| Posted: Wed 10 Sep, 2008 4:17 pm Post subject: |
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Perfect, and beautiful! Awesome sword Don! When does it date from? You bought it from an armoury?
As for my sword, I just picked it up today, and I must say, after seing it a second time, I am convinced it is 100% genuine.
The sword weighs just 1.9 lbs, and it has a 37 inch blade and is about 42 inches overall. If it is Victorian, I am utterly baffled and fooled, and would never buy another antique older than 18th century again!
This sword is also very well balanced and responsive.
I heard someone on an other forum refer to the side ring as a "thumb guard". I was under the strict impression that the ring protected the outside of the hand, not the thumb.
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Brian Kent
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Where was the auction? Ebay? Or some other random auction site? I can't seem to find any old antique swords up for auction. Can anyone suggest some sites?
Nice sword btw. I am very jealous, its a beautiful piece.
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Don Stanko
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| Posted: Wed 10 Sep, 2008 6:09 pm Post subject: |
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That sword is from about 1550 A.D. and is originally from the Graz Armoury. I purchased it from an old Cleveland collection, this was one of the lesser swords offered for sale. Needless to say, I couldn't afford the others.
As for your sword I would say you have nothing to worry about. The weight and length sound right and it looks good to me. The outer ring is not a "thumb ring". This was meant to protect the outside of the hand, some think its a step in the evolution of the complex guard but I'm not sure. I've always appreciated this style of sword and its one you dont see too often. Enjoy your purchase!
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Carl Massaro
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Thanks, Don. That's what I thought about the side ring. I thought I was going crazy.
Someone suggested it could be a late estoc, but I thought estocs primarily had triagular or diamond cross-sectioned blades.
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Carl Massaro
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Yes, the sword was up for auction on ebay. I was lucky enough to win it.
I am still curious about the armorers mark on the blade. As someone else pointed out, it is called the "marca a mosco" or "Fly Mark", and was seen on some Italian swords in the 16th century. I would guess that my sword dates from about 1550 to 1600.
I am also baffled by the star and crescent moon mark on the pommel. There was speculation by someone that this could be the mark of he Venetian arsenal, but I would like to know more.
Any thoughts?
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