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David Keir
Location: harrogate u.k. Joined: 25 Aug 2008
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Nathan Robinson
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It is 20th century. The inscriptions were scratched on by a previous owner. Nemo Me Impune probably indicates a police officer of some kind, but that term was also used by bands playing at funerals and whatnot. The sword may have been used during a funeral.
On the ricasso is "LXVIV" or "69" so maybe 1969? These swords have been made in the same style forever. They aren't worth much of anything unfortunately.
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Sam Haverkamp
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David,
I agree with Nathan. This is a 20th Century made in "Toledo Spain" sword. They usually go for $75-$200 bucks on ebay.
They do make nice wall hangers!
Sam
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Jonathan Hopkins
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Nemo me impune lacessit, No-one provokes me with impunity, is a Latin motto commonly associated with Scotland (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nemo_Me_Impune_Lacessit), including the Scots Guards:
That being said, I agree with Nathan that it is a 20th century replica with the motto crudely inscribed by a previous owner.
All the best,
Jonathan
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Jean-Carle Hudon
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I agree with Jonathan about the motto, which makes me wonder how a person interested in latin could get the numerals wrong. They make no sense as they are. The other thing which bugs me is the use of the initials ETA, which are known for a nationalist/separatist/patriotic/terrorist organization ( the list of epithets depends on the political views of the beholder) out of the Basque region in what is now Spain. I don't know if this will help your research. Good luck with tracing the provenance.
Bon coeur et bon bras
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Glen A Cleeton
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This is one of the ubiquitous Colada del Cid swords and perhaps from around 1969. The rings up by the pommel of the sword are not original to it. During the 1960s (perhaps even earlier) and 1970s, there were often advertised in the backs of magazines for up to $19.99 here in the USA. I seem to recall seeing themm for $12.99 or $14.99 during the lat '60s alongside the advertisements for the $1.99 stilletos.
Although I've not seen a plain stel one since the 1980s, they may still be available in that raw form. Most these days are gussied up a little shinier. A friend once was convinced his was the real thing. that being an antique sword but the hilt and grip style are a dead giveaway on that blade form.
Cheers
GC
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D. Austin
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Location: Melbourne, Australia Joined: 20 Sep 2007
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Here's a pair I got at a flea market about 10 years ago for $50. I think these are the original etchings on the blades.
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Don Stanko
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Another clue is that it does not have an inner guard, allowing it to hang nicely against a wall. This was also common in 19th century reproductions. Although I agree with everyone else that this was probably made in the 60's.
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Douglas G.
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It looks like one the I bought from Meier and Franks in Portland in Fall of 1968. I called it the El Cid, and Glen, I
should have read the same magazines as you. $19.99? I paid $30.00 hard earned big ones for mine! Mine
didn't have the wood rings. maybe the pommel has slipped and the hilt has been shimmed with these?
In any case, it looked good on my wall, and I traded it as one half of the price a friend wanted for his Bonanza
mini bike.
Doug
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