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David Stokes
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| Bill Grandy wrote: | | As an additional, I feel the need to add that John does the best job of packaging a sword I've ever seen. He put together a wooden crate to make sure *nothing* damaged the sword in shipment. |
hahahaha
I know what you mean!!!
the first sword I ever got from John was packed SOOO well!
took me a half an hour to get into the crate because the batteries in my drill were dead....
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Jay Douglas Black
Location: Dallas, Texas Joined: 22 Oct 2007
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| Posted: Sat 02 Aug, 2008 12:25 am Post subject: Gorgeous |
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Wow, that is one truly stunning blade. I've always had a fondness for messers and this is a great examble, both historical and unique.
But it begs a question I've had on my mind for a while, ever since I saw a Peter Jonson messer that had a beautiful hilt with a knuckle guard. I seem to recall someone mentioning that many binds and other techniques for messer required a straight cross. Are there any historical examples of messer with more complex crosses out there? Knuckle guards, side or thumb rings etc?
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Bill Grandy
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| Posted: Sat 02 Aug, 2008 7:06 am Post subject: Re: Gorgeous |
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| Jay Douglas Black wrote: | | I seem to recall someone mentioning that many binds and other techniques for messer required a straight cross. |
Oh, I very much disagree. I suppose a select few cases migh favor a straight cross, but only very specialized techniques. All in all, you can the vast majority of messer techniques with any one handed sword designed for both cut and thrust.
| Quote: | | Are there any historical examples of messer with more complex crosses out there? Knuckle guards, side or thumb rings etc? |
I've definately seen side rings on some 16th century ones. Also, the Peter Falkner fechtbuch has illustrations of messers with knucklbows. I can't think of anything fancier off the top of my head, but that doesn't mean they don't exist.
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Jessica Finley
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Location: Topeka, Kansas Joined: 29 Dec 2003
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Bill -
That is *sweet*!!! Next time I run into you, I need to remind you to bring this! (Maybe CW 2009?)
Jessica
Selohaar Fechtschule, Free Scholar
http://www.selohaar.org/fechtschule
Fühlen Designs, Owner/Designer/Seamstress
http://fuhlendesigns.com
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Bill Grandy
myArmoury Team
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| Jessica Finley wrote: | Bill -
That is *sweet*!!! Next time I run into you, I need to remind you to bring this! (Maybe CW 2009?)
Jessica |
Deal! 
HistoricalHandcrafts.com
-Inspired by History, Crafted by Hand
"For practice is better than artfulness. Your exercise can do well without artfulness, but artfulness is not much good without the exercise.” -anonymous 15th century fencing master, MS 3227a
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Clark Volmar
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| Bill Grandy wrote: | | Clark Volmar wrote: | Incredible sword, Bill.
Think we could get a pic of the latter third of the blade, which details the termination of the fuller, the double clip, and the tip?
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Awesome...Thanks, Bill.
That is a phenomenal blade!
I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I intended to be. -- Douglas Adams
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Chuck Wyatt
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Bill,
It's beautiful.
I always thought the Kal messer would look good in real life, I just didn't think that good!
It's beautiful.
I gonna spend the rest of the day thinking about your new messer.
It's beautiful.
Chuck
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John Lundemo
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Location: New Hampton, N.Y. Joined: 03 Nov 2005
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Got a different styled Messer going this year and the picture of the hilt of the original had the hollow rivets. It's really pitted and the scales are missing, but you can get a good look at the construction. That one is more like the giant kitchen knife variety, that Bill spoke of. So I thought the hollow rivets would be the way to go on this one.
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