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Roberto L





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PostPosted: Fri 18 Apr, 2008 10:08 pm    Post subject: Can you identify this WWI vintage short sword ? Russian?         Reply with quote

A relative has this World War I - vintage short sword. It is about 27 inches long and includes a scabbard and sword. Both are matched serial number and in very good to excellent condition. The writing could be Cyrillic which leads me to believe this may be Russian. The blade is stamped 1912 and some type of proof mark which also looks Cyrillic. The blade is curved and has blood groove. The scabbard is some type of rigid material, possibly leather, with brass tip and brass belt loop. The wood handle has two large rivets similar to bayonets I have seen but it seems too long and curved for a bayonet. Can you help identify its type and origin?


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Roberto L





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PostPosted: Fri 18 Apr, 2008 10:09 pm    Post subject: Another picture         Reply with quote

Here is another (poor) picture of the whole thing


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Sa'ar Nudel




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PostPosted: Sat 19 Apr, 2008 6:22 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Imperial (Zarist) Russian artillery side arm. Kind of a militarized large, curved kindjal (double edged).
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Roberto L





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PostPosted: Sat 19 Apr, 2008 7:02 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Thanks for the info,

Also does anyone know how I would research the value of such an item? Is it rare?

I assume these were probably stamped out by the hundreds or thousands at some point.
It appears to be in very good to excellent condition.
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Sa'ar Nudel




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PostPosted: Sat 19 Apr, 2008 7:48 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Though not particularly rare, these are in high demand because of the recent interest in Russian arms. I would say $600 value for one in excellent condition. The existance of replicas says also something about the demand.
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Kerim Mamedov




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PostPosted: Sat 19 Apr, 2008 3:37 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Just a little add to above,
Mark on a blade "fabrika zlatoust" - (manufacture in Zlatoust town, known as a mass manufacturer for Imp.Russian army)
Form of a dagger called Bebut.
Here: http://www.russianwarrior.com/STMMain.htm?190....htm&1

you can find similar marked bebut.

in general bebut mesurments (for 1907 model) are:
total length , up to 600mm
blade length, up to 440 mm
blade width, 35 mm
weight, up to 750 g



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Roberto L





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PostPosted: Sat 19 Apr, 2008 8:59 pm    Post subject: Bebut Kindjal update         Reply with quote

Thanks for all the info. By googling the correct technical terms I found several similar Bebuts for sale both repros and genuine.
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