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Lawrence Parramore
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 Posted: Tue 11 Mar, 2008 7:43 am Post subject: ornamented ' Chain ' Mail |
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Hi, I have been racking my brain trying to remember where I saw a picture of a mail shirt covered in 'Orders' or medallions of some sort, I am sure it was east european, can anyone help?
I don't mean Turkish etc, it had stars and grotesques on it I seem to remember.
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Allan Senefelder
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I think your thinking of the shist shown in "Arms and Armour" by an Eastern European fella who's name escapes me. The book has lots Eastern European sabers and maces and armour including a maille shirt made in the 17th century for a fella of nobil status, that had lots of little silver stars and the like including a series layed out around the neckline to look like a chain with a medaillion on it. Jean Thibodeau bought my copy and has the specifics. I think its the shirt you thinking of and I beleive its maybe Transylvanian.
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Jean Thibodeau
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| Allan Senefelder wrote: | | I think your thinking of the shist shown in "Arms and Armour" by an Eastern European fella who's name escapes me. The book has lots Eastern European sabers and maces and armour including a maille shirt made in the 17th century for a fella of nobil status, that had lots of little silver stars and the like including a series layed out around the neckline to look like a chain with a medaillion on it. Jean Thibodeau bought my copy and has the specifics. I think its the shirt you thinking of and I beleive its maybe Transylvanian. |
Arms & Armour, Ferenc Temesvary: Plate XVI, the caption says, Mailed shirt of Gyorgy Rakoczi ( A whole bunch of accents I don't have on my keyboard ) , Prince of Transylvania, 17th century.
The text associated to this plate: " Of silver, and bronze: gilded. Made by Transsylvanian craftsmen. The riveted links are executed in silver wire. The mail is thickly and finely " woven " . The collar fastenings are gilded. The breast is richly decorated with precious stones set in gilt rosettes, placed in the form of a necklace, with star motifs, and with mounts depicting the sun and the moon."
Transylvania, 17th century
Height: 75 cm. Inv. No. 55-3539 Hungarian National Museum
You can easily give up your freedom. You have to fight hard to get it back!
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Lawrence Parramore
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| Posted: Tue 11 Mar, 2008 10:34 am Post subject: |
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Thank you both very much, I can't seem to find anywhere on the web with a picture, but this does sound like the one I was thinking of.
Best regards Lawrence
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Lawrence Parramore
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Werner Stiegler
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This one's turkish, but it fits your description.
Another piece of transsilvanian mail decorated in the turkish style was posted around here too, I believe.
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Nathan Robinson
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Corey D. Sullivan
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| Werner Stiegler wrote: | This one's turkish, but it fits your description.
Another piece of transsilvanian mail decorated in the turkish style was posted around here too, I believe. |
Damn that is a fine weave! Look at the size of those links!
"He had scantly finyshed his saienge but the one armye espyed the other lord how hastely the souldioures buckled their healmes how quikly the archers bent ther bowes and frushed their feathers how redely the byllmen shoke their bylles and proved their staves redy to appioche and loyne when the terrible trotnpet should sound the blast to victorie or deathe."
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Jean Thibodeau
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Yes that looks like the one in the book or close enough to be identical. ( Just double checked and it's the same one ).
You can easily give up your freedom. You have to fight hard to get it back!
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