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Shahril Dzulkifli




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PostPosted: Thu 13 Dec, 2007 5:32 pm    Post subject: Hungarian Sword Identification         Reply with quote

As a newbie here I also have a sword to identify. I have never seen it before.


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PostPosted: Thu 13 Dec, 2007 11:29 pm    Post subject: Re: I Need to Identify Such Sword - Please Help         Reply with quote

Shahril Dzulkifli wrote:
As a newbie here I also have a sword to identify. I have never seen it before.


Looks like the sabers used by the Mamluk. Not sure though.

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Shahril Dzulkifli




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PostPosted: Fri 14 Dec, 2007 1:03 am    Post subject: Hungarian Sword Identification         Reply with quote

This sword is no Mameluke. Mameluke swords do not have thick blades. They have curved blades.

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PostPosted: Fri 14 Dec, 2007 2:52 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Hmm...looks like a Polish or Hungarian sword to me, but I don't know enough to say anything more than that. Seeing the breadth, it might also be an infantry hanger, although it might be a bit too long for that classification.

Anyone?

(Oh, BTW, wouldn't it be more appropriate to post a request for the identification of a different sword in a different topic? That way it may be able to gather more attention than when it's placed near the bottom of an old thread's page like this.)
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PostPosted: Fri 14 Dec, 2007 6:06 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Lafayette C Curtis wrote:
(Oh, BTW, wouldn't it be more appropriate to post a request for the identification of a different sword in a different topic? That way it may be able to gather more attention than when it's placed near the bottom of an old thread's page like this.)


Done. It is generally best to start a new thread for things like this.

Happy

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PostPosted: Fri 14 Dec, 2007 6:42 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Hello Shahril,

It reminds me very much of a sword I posted to another thread here somewhere. I'm afraid I don't recall the exact context or title, or I would point the way to it. This sword is listed as a Hungarian headsman's sword.

http://h1.ripway.com/Bombadil/mA/hhss.jpg


Does your example show engravings at all on the blade? I am not certain of the exact period of either, nor certain if other areas of Europe would have similar examples but seeing your example posted reminded me of this one. I would place both to the second half of the 18th century but that is as good as my information on them is. I believe the other thread was about executioner's swords, or executions in general.

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PostPosted: Fri 14 Dec, 2007 8:01 am    Post subject: Hungarian Sword Identification         Reply with quote

Here are the engravings on that sword's blade (faintly visible).
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PostPosted: Sat 15 Dec, 2007 1:30 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Looks like a Hungarian infantry sword around late 1700 - early 1800.
Here is a hungarian sword from that period, has the same blade but different guard:
http://www.nagyhazi.hu/tetelek_tobb.php?id=65...mp;page=17
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PostPosted: Fri 28 Dec, 2007 9:34 am    Post subject: Hungarian Sword Identification         Reply with quote

Here is a Grenadiers' sword dating from 1765 whose blade is similar to the one shown above:

Any opinions, everybody?


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Henrik Zoltan Toth




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PostPosted: Sat 29 Dec, 2007 5:03 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Do you have a larger photo from the hilt?
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PostPosted: Sat 29 Dec, 2007 8:11 am    Post subject: Hungarian Sword Identification         Reply with quote

Henrik, here's a photo of the hilt.


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PostPosted: Sat 29 Dec, 2007 10:16 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

It could be realy a hungarian sabre from the late 1700's. I got a picture of an almost identical sabre (hilt) in my books.
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PostPosted: Sun 30 Dec, 2007 8:21 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Howdy, Shahril.

Your sword is a Hungarian infantry officer's sabre, M1811, type II.

Nice find!

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PostPosted: Sun 30 Dec, 2007 9:40 am    Post subject: Re: Hungarian Sword Identification         Reply with quote

Hal, thanks for informing me about that sword.
Good work!
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