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Justin Pasternak
Location: West Springfield, Massachusetts Joined: 17 Sep 2006
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Posted: Mon 26 Nov, 2007 6:15 am Post subject: |
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Here's some images of a mongolian helmet with scale's part of the way up (I think?), unless these are plates attached to the helmet rather than scales? I'm not to good at judging armour. So, please correct me, if I'm wrong.
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M. Eversberg II
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Posted: Mon 26 Nov, 2007 3:57 pm Post subject: |
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The helmet itself is made up of plates, but it has a neck guard of llames.
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A. Jake Storey II
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Posted: Wed 28 Nov, 2007 9:11 am Post subject: |
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The paintings all show square scails but the surviving examples and reproductions all show circular, why is that?
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James Barker
Location: Ashburn VA Joined: 20 Apr 2005
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Posted: Wed 28 Nov, 2007 9:28 am Post subject: |
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A. Jake Storey II wrote: | The paintings all show square scails but the surviving examples and reproductions all show circular, why is that? |
The extant examples are of Eastern influence may be the reason.
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Chad Arnow
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Posted: Sun 28 Sep, 2008 2:23 pm Post subject: |
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Here's another image of one of these helms, by Mathis Nithardt (Grunewald).
I think it's also interesting for the clear depiction of the padded garment. The sword and scabbard are interesting too.
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Quote: | Fighting man of the late 14th century wearing a bascinet with aventail, a quilted coat, vambraces and iron gauntlets. His sword is in his hand. Detail from an altar-piece by Mathis Nithardt (Grunewald). Unterlinden Museum, Colmar. |
Edit: though it depicts a late 14th century man, the artist lived in the late 15th and early 16th century.
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Dan Howard
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Kevin P Molloy
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Posted: Mon 29 Sep, 2008 5:31 pm Post subject: |
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Could this helmet from a Derrick print of Irish cavalry be depicting a scale helmet?
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Michael Ekelmann
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Posted: Tue 30 Sep, 2008 5:04 pm Post subject: |
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Kevin P Molloy wrote: | Could this helmet from a Derrick print of Irish cavalry be depicting a scale helmet? |
Maybe but I'm thinking those helmets are made like jacks of plate. Of course, that's really just scale sewn into a sandwich of fabric, making it pretty simliar technologicaly. It's a shame none have been found.
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