[Nathan Robinson]

Today's update:


The Battle of Courtrai
An article by Alexi Goranov


Spotlight: The Great Helm
An article by Chad Arnow

As always, you can see our Complete History of Updates listed right from our home page.

[Sean Flynt]

Re: The Courtrai article--The fact that the goedendag figured so prominently in this battle yet is largely forgotten in the reproduction arms & armour scene illustrates the general lack of respect that dogs polearms. Is it because this weapon in particular is so simple and can be made in any modern garage workshop? Does it lack appeal because it is "common" compared to swords or even halberds? Medieval Soldier shows a well-finished, slender and very elegant version in the hands of a 15th c....what?...referee? provost?... in a training scene, and that got me thinking about making one like that. Maybe that weapon is too different to be considered a goedendag, though.

Anybody with basic tools and skills could make one of these. Suitable haft material is often a problem where polearms are concerned, but pine was sometimes used for the weapons of what Waldman calls the "Morgenstern Group," and there's plenty of that wood available in 2x2x6. It wouldn't be hard to make a very nice version of this weapon.

Arms & Armor recently introduced one of these (see below,) and it's a good match for some of those illustrated in this article.

I'd love to see some of this site's resident tinkerers research, choose and make various goedendag types. Consider that a challenge. I'd love to see what members would come up with if called to muster.

I'd like to make one of those slender 15th c. variants eventually, but I'm carrying two workbench projects right now and have no more than a few minutes per week to work on either of them.

[Jonathan Blair]

Perhaps the reason why few goedendag replicas exist is four-fold

1) It's not an exciting or elegant weapon. No curves to catch the eye. No geometric forms to intrigue the imagination. It's a crude spike on a stick, one step up from a pointy stick. Plain and simple.

2) How many variations can you come up with for a sword? Thousands, perhaps millions if you factor in fantasy elements too. How many variations on axes, spears, bows, halberds, etc. The goedendag is so simple it may be that makers shy away because of the lack of variation. Again, its a spike on a stick.

3) Lack of demand. Everyone wants a sword or an axe or a bow or a spear etc. The goedendag appeals to a very limited market within a very limited market. I wonder if A&A's goedendag is a big seller...

4) Shipping on hafted weapons like pollaxes and halberds is higher than on a smaller weapon. That, coupled with a lack of suitable haft material, draws people away from such weapons as compared to swords and the like.

Thus, the lowly goedendag lay largely forgotten.

Then again, I might be full of it too.

[Sean Flynt]

[Tim May]

Chad and Alexi, the articles are great. The great helm is one of my favorite (along with everyone else ), and about as late as my period of interest goes. These articles are elegantly written and informative, something you both should be quite proud of. My favorite update so far!

[Chad Arnow]

[Chad Arnow]

If my count is correct, these are our 102nd and 103rd published feature articles.

[Ivo Malz]

[Lafayette C Curtis]

Hmm. I can't help wondering about some things. Can the Flemish militias who fought at COurtrai really be described as "inexperienced?" If I'm not mistaken, this contradicts the statement found in Verbruggen's or DeVries' book (or both) that a considerable parts of these militias would have gathered some experience fighting in the numerous local wars of the period as well as being called out to serve the French crown in more significant wars. There is also an increasing amount of evidence that a fairly large proportion of men in these militias were fairly well armored in mail hauberks--and that these armored men would have formed the front ranks of their formation, increasing its effectiveness and protecting the less well-armored men at the same time.

I'd better go and look for my sources on this.

[Randall Moffett]

I am sure some would have been less experienced but it is more a word choice to me. Largely, many, most, somewhat etc. are relative words so it does not mean all were inexperienced or unarmoured. Even if the first row or tow were armoured it still would make a majority unarmoured. I have read some on this topic but think unless I missed something in the primary reading that it unlikely to find a detailed equipment inventory for them. He at least put 'inexperienced' in parenthesis. I enjoyed the feature very much. There is a book on Medieval Brabant by Sergio Boffa which is quite good for those who are interested. I am not terribly impressed with all Devris opinions of some of the battles etc. taking place in this region (Bevershout- for example I think he over simplifies some aspects and magnifies minimal factors to almost ridiculous scale that none of the chroniclers do) but he also has written some good things on them as well and really are quite useful.

The Great helm article is excellent! I have read it twice now and both times have found it exactly what one would hope for on a concise article on Great helms. The Wells Cathedral great helm would be awesome as an illustration for it though. Great work though and I am sure it will be one of the main stays for people looking online for info on great helms.

Great work gents!

RPM

PS- I want a godendag!!!

[Chad Arnow]