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Hugh Knight

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PostPosted: Mon 10 Sep, 2007 3:42 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Hugh Knight wrote:
The English during the Wars of the Roses tended to favor harnesses with longer faulds than were seen on the continent, much like the one in the picture I sent but without the "dip". Note, however, that these were the same harnesses used for riding:

By the way, if you have a copy of the new book by Toby Capwell entitled The Real Fighting Stuff if you look at pp. 38-39 you can see Toby putting on a harness of this period (made by Robert MacPherson) and you can see how far down it covers him, yet this is his jousting harness (Toby is a champion jouster). I was in Mac's shop many times as this harness being made and because his saddle was being made at the same time I got to discuss with Mac how they interacted quite a bit. The longer fauld doesn't get in the way when mounted as it looks like it would, the fauld just "scrunches" up a bit.

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Felix R.

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PostPosted: Tue 11 Sep, 2007 6:27 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

I was not referring to the dip in special, this was just something what showed the groin/crotch (however it is termed correctly) protection in this case. And often it seemed to me that this area was quite vulnerable. This neednīt to be associated with longer faulds, as I can see in your examples that there IS indeed a crotch protection, even if there are no long faulds present, in the way of padding and a maille braie which serves the function of protection. So the question: "is there a special protection" can be answered with "yes", on the former times it was long armour in terms of padded long skirted gambeson and maille it later comes to the more refined things.
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