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Peter Dietl




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PostPosted: Tue 05 Jun, 2007 11:54 pm    Post subject: early 16th Burgonet         Reply with quote

As I intend to buy (better, let it make for me) a Burgonet this year, I need some informations or photos of early Burgonets/Sturmhauben. Should be about 1525 to 1550 (Doppelsöldner, no knights helmets) , Germany or Italy, and I thought it would be no problem, but surprisingly I did only found few photos and some drawings. As anybody has something about this helmet it would be nice to share it with me, Thanks, Peter
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PostPosted: Wed 06 Jun, 2007 5:27 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Have you checked out our Spotlight article on Burgonets?

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PostPosted: Wed 06 Jun, 2007 6:58 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Follow this link:

http://hss.ulb.uni-bonn.de/diss_online/phil_f.../index.htm

Then download the very large PDF file (7.6 M) of Der Landsknecht im Spiegel der Renaissancegraphik um 1500 - 1540. It's a German-language document contains more than 200 contemporary image of Landesknechts (starting on page 296). It's the most complete visual resource I've found. I burned it to CD, and would encourage other Landesknecht afficionados to do the same. You'll find a few images of German infantry burgonets for the period of your interest.

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PostPosted: Fri 08 Jun, 2007 6:18 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

@Chad: of course I checked the Spotlight article before posting a new Thread, but there are only few helmets in the first half of 16th cent. , it´s sad, but most are to late for me .
@ Sean: thanks for this great link, the pictures are wonderful.
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PostPosted: Fri 08 Jun, 2007 1:13 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Did some digging for you and might have found a few.


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German, c. 1520-1530. Howard M. Curtis Collection, ex W.R. Hearst Collection

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South German, c. 1530. Howard M. Curtis Collection

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German, c. 1540-1550. Howard M. Curtis Collection

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German, c. 1550. Tojhusmeet, Copenhagen

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German, mid-16th century. Glasgow Art Gallery and Museum, Kelvingrove

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PostPosted: Fri 08 Jun, 2007 1:28 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

And some more, all from the Museums fur Deutsche Geschichte..


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1st half of the 16th Century.

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Middle of the 16th century.

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Middle of the 16th century.

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1st half of the 16th century.

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PostPosted: Sat 09 Jun, 2007 9:53 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

@Chad: Thanks a lot, wonderful, I think No. 6 or 9 will do it.
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PostPosted: Sat 09 Jun, 2007 1:16 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Peter Dietl wrote:
@Chad: Thanks a lot, wonderful, I think No. 6 or 9 will do it.
Peter


Glad I could help. The images in the first post came from: 2,500 years of European helmets, 800 B.C.-1700 A.D. The ones in the second post from: Europäische Helme.

I heartily recommend both books.

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PostPosted: Thu 25 Oct, 2007 10:12 am    Post subject: new Burgonet         Reply with quote

So after waiting for a long time I finally got my new Burgonet/Sturmhaube from Tomasz Tsamula...I think it´s really wonderful, I hope You like it too...thanks Chad, for the photos, You will recognize it.
It´s a closed Sturmhaube, because the two wings meet under the chin, so it delivers more protection.



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PostPosted: Thu 25 Oct, 2007 11:42 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

That is beautiful. Congratulations ! Happy
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PostPosted: Thu 25 Oct, 2007 11:59 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Ha!

Cool!!

I find the fact that a piece of armor has just come alive out of the pages of a history book completely fascinating. I'm never going to look at the photo of an attractive helmet the same way again.
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PostPosted: Thu 25 Oct, 2007 2:12 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

I use one helmet made by T.Samula .I am sure you will be satisfied by yours.
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PostPosted: Thu 25 Oct, 2007 2:15 pm    Post subject: Re: new Burgonet         Reply with quote

Peter Dietl wrote:
So after waiting for a long time I finally got my new Burgonet/Sturmhaube from Tomasz Tsamula...I think it´s really wonderful, I hope You like it too...thanks Chad, for the photos, You will recognize it.
It´s a closed Sturmhaube, because the two wings meet under the chin, so it delivers more protection.


Looks nice! Does Tomasz have a website? Not that I can't just Google...

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PostPosted: Thu 25 Oct, 2007 2:16 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

I answered my own question: http://www.tomala.lublin.pl/index.php?strona=wstep&lng=eng
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