Posts: 78 Location: Bad Kreuznach/Germany
Thu 31 Jan, 2008 3:12 am
Saberidentification--need some help
Last year i bought a saber-but i´m not quite sure what i got.
It looks similar to the M1796LC-but the blade is even more massive then the M1796.
The sellers guess was mid 18th cent hussar saber.
Any ideas?
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saber besides my M1796
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Posts: 1,972 Location: Nipmuc USA
Thu 31 Jan, 2008 6:13 am
Hi Peter,
I know my first impression of these was a little off base but apparently not an uncommon form into the 19th century. there was a thread back in December that offered some information on similar swords.
http://www.myArmoury.com/talk/viewtopic.php?t=11859
Cheers
GC
Posts: 78 Location: Bad Kreuznach/Germany
Thu 31 Jan, 2008 7:07 am
Thx for the link Glen.
i know that these sabers were popular in 18/19th-i´m looking for info to close down the time range/land.
My guess was a private purchased variant of the M1796 when i saw the pics-but it is faaar more massive then the usual M1796.
Posts: 361 Location: Haifa, Israel
Thu 07 Feb, 2008 6:25 am
while talking to a fellow saber collecot he offered these options:
1. Indian army cavalry.
2. Danish Army.
3. Swedish artillery
After he sees the photos I'll get back with, hopefully, more accurate answer.
Posts: 138 Location: herne bay Kent UK
Thu 14 Feb, 2008 1:46 pm
Hi peter I suspect it is a 1796 light cavalry I handled two 1796 sabres with dimensions similar to the photo at the military show at Detling in august 07 both were lesser quality weapons. I have seen several other illustrations showing weapons of these dimensions all were lesser quality common troopers or yeomanry regiments.
Posts: 1,377
Thu 14 Feb, 2008 4:32 pm
Peter,
What are the measurements of the sword? What is the blade length? What is the blade width?
Thank you,
Jonathan
Posts: 78 Location: Bad Kreuznach/Germany
Fri 15 Feb, 2008 9:56 am
@Robin that was my guess too
@Jonathan
the sizes are in cm/gr
weight 820gr, including scabbard 1300
lenght overall 88cm, blade 76cm long
blade is 5cm at the ricasso, getting slimmer till 4cm at the tip (unlike the M1796, there the blade is wider at the tip)
Pfeilhöhe 6.2cm- i don´t know the english word-thats how curved the saber is.
Its the distance between the blades back and a line drawn from tip to hilt.
Posts: 1,377
Fri 15 Feb, 2008 10:49 am
Peter,
Thank you for the measurements. I would guess that this is an infantry (or some type of foot officer) sword in the style of the 1796 LC. 76 cm is roughly equal to 29.9 inches, which would be short for a cavalry weapon. Are there any indication as to its country of origin?
Jonathan
Posts: 85 Location: UK
Fri 15 Feb, 2008 11:27 am
I agree I think you have a sword made for a Yeomanry or Militia officer Peter
David
Posts: 361 Location: Haifa, Israel
Sat 16 Feb, 2008 2:36 am
Two points to look at:
1. The hilt composition appears somewhat crude. Is the quillon terminal missing or finished without one?
2. The scabbard has both ring suspenders and a frog stud.
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