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Jan Small
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 Posted: Mon 08 Mar, 2004 7:33 am Post subject: Need design ideas for a dagger for a woman |
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Hi,
Could any recommend a dagger design that is suiteable for a girl, in other words feminine. My girlfriend is turning 21 and I'm getting someone to make her a dagger but needs some ideas on the design. 
I was thinking maybe an oriental design but have not decided yet on anything specific.
TIA,
JJ
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Gary Grzybek
Location: Stillwater N.J. Joined: 25 Aug 2003
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Timothy Gulics
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I second the stiletto idea. The MRL that Gary mentioned was one I gave to my own girlfriend, in fact.. she loves it 
A smaller bodice dagger might also be nice, but they can be tiny.
My girlfriend also likes kris blades, maybe that is also a 'female' thing, but tastes vary Good luck!
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Peter Johnsson
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| Posted: Mon 08 Mar, 2004 1:15 pm Post subject: Re: Need design ideas for a dagger for a woman |
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| Jan Small wrote: |
Hi,
Could any recommend a dagger design that is suiteable for a girl, in other words feminine. My girlfriend is turning 21 and I'm getting someone to make her a dagger but needs some ideas on the design.
I was thinking maybe an oriental design but have not decided yet on anything specific.
TIA,
JJ |
Depending on your girls tastes, temperament and humor, she might like a slim ballockdagger?  ...hilt in bone or boxwood, narrow hollowground blade and reinforced point!
Seriously though, these can be made to look very classy and elegant.
Otherwise I would second the stiletto idea. A nice three edged holowground thing, all steel construction.
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Jan Small
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I really like that Stilleto, might even curve the handle a bit. Gonna have alook this afternoon to see what a local guy can and cannot do, He is apparently quite good. Alternatively i should maybe purchase one over the net but it could work out expensively as i Live in South Africa.
Can anybody recommend a good internet dealer?
Thanx for the help so far.
JJ
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Jan Small
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| Posted: Mon 08 Mar, 2004 10:23 pm Post subject: Re: Need design ideas for a dagger for a woman |
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| Peter Johnsson wrote: |
Depending on your girls tastes, temperament and humor, she might like a slim ballockdagger? ...hilt in bone or boxwood, narrow hollowground blade and reinforced point!
Seriously though, these can be made to look very classy and elegant.
Otherwise I would second the stiletto idea. A nice three edged holowground thing, all steel construction. |
Do you have a pic of what you mean with "Three edged holowground"? I'm not quite sure what you mean.
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| Quote: | | Do you have a pic of what you mean with "Three edged holowground"? I'm not quite sure what you mean. |
Hi Jan,
You can find a useful discussion of hollowground blades here:
http://www.myArmoury.com/talk/viewtopic.php?t...ght=hollow
While the above topic deals primarily with sword blades, (and would serve a different function in a stilleto), the "what's" and "how's" and "why's" are discussed there.
Yours,
David
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Timothy Gulics
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Well, three edged... imagine the blade as looking like a triangle when viewed from the point down towards the hilt. There are three edges, like any triangle, that are then hollow ground to have a shallow middle to them.
I have been told that a puncture wound from this sort of knife will not heal easily, which is why it was chosen as a design.
I've also heard that if the stiletto is made of ... either copper, bronze or brass... it also had an adverse effect on the wound. Not sure about that, it was a tidbit coming from an AngelSword dealer
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Jan Small
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Thanx,
Sounds like it might complement the look i now have in mind.
Cheers,
JJ
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Peter Johnsson
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This is a three edged dagger dating to around 1500 AD. It is kept in the Historical Museum, Stockholm, Sweden. Construction is all steel with a hollow conical tube as grip and a two piece hollow disc as pommel/cap. Below is reconstruction of how it may have looked when new.
Blades like this are effective stabbing instruments, especially through thick wool or leather.
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Thomas McDonald
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Wonderful recreation, Peter !
Thanks for sharing that , Mac
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Timothy Gulics
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Yeah, there we go. That disc-shaped pommel is something new to me, though... I guess that's good for pushing the stiletto deeper once you've stabbed a guy
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Brett Josef Schmidthuber
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"I've also heard that if the stiletto is made of ... either copper, bronze or brass... it also had an adverse effect on the wound. Not sure about that, it was a tidbit coming from an AngelSword dealer "
Actually, in fact, it does -- copper poisening --. I've actually seen the effects first hand...causes a nasty infection in a wound. And since all bronze and brass contain copper as their primary element (I trust I need not mention copper contains copper ;-) ) they still have the copper effect . By the way, bronze (90% copper, 10% tin historically-now some bronzes use aluminum and silicone as elements as well) makes the best blade out of those three materials- Brass is too soft and mushy, copper is..copper. soft. - but bronze is harder and tougher then both. Ive planned actually to make a few stiletto's and other blades, out of less "high tech" materials then steel soon, and bronze is the material I'm going with.
In relation to the main subject - another idea for your ladie's dagger would be a long slim double edged dagger... Delicate and deadly. Maybe with a bloodwood (or pink ivory?) grip. Kind of like a fairbairn sykes commando knife...I'll try and make a sketch of My idea for you...
When in doubt, bleed them out.
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