| myArmoury.com is now completely member-supported. Please contribute to our efforts with a donation. Your donations will go towards updating our site, modernizing it, and keeping it viable long-term. Last 10 Donors: Daniel Sullivan, Anonymous, Chad Arnow, Jonathan Dean, M. Oroszlany, Sam Arwas, Barry C. Hutchins, Dan Kary, Oskar Gessler, Dave Tonge (View All Donors) |
Author |
Message |
Glen A Cleeton
|
Posted: Sun 11 Feb, 2007 9:41 pm Post subject: Babel Sword |
|
|
Forgive a somewhat whimsical topic header but something that always confuses me is but a rose by any other name;)
I'm feeling that what may be lacking (at least from my perspective) is a cross reference of terms and designations. I just stumbled on a nice German list and wondered if others might wish to share both modern and archaic definitiions of swords from other languages (for now, all arms would be interesting too).
FWIW:
German English
------------ ---------------
Klinge blade
Schwert sword
Kurzschwert shortsword
Breitschwert broadsword
Langschwert longsword
Stoßschwert thrusting sword
Krummschwert scimitar, sabre
Bidenhänder two-handed sword
Flamberge wavy-bladed sword (?)
Säbel sabre, scimitar
Krummsäbel sabre, scimitar
Säbelschwert saber (?)
Degen sword, epee (OE thegn); warrior (someone wielding a sword
Haudegen sword; veteran warrior
Stoßdegen smallsword
Rapier sword, rapier
Stoßrapier foil
Haurapier sword, rapier
Schläger sword, rapier
Florett foil
~~~~~
A hasty cut and paste from elsewhere, so I hope it pasted well.
Thoughts? Additions? References?
Cheers
GC
|
|
|
|
Chad Arnow
myArmoury Team
|
|
|
|
Johan S. Moen
Location: Kristiansand, Norway Joined: 26 Jan 2004
Posts: 259
|
Posted: Tue 13 Feb, 2007 3:19 am Post subject: |
|
|
From Hjalmar Falks "Altnordische Waffenkunde" we have the following Norwegian terms for swords:
Sverd - sword (still in use, the normal word for sword )
Sax - a sword that can have one or two edges
Mækir - a sword that can have one or two edges
Skolm - a sword wielded by supernatural creatures, possibly the sword is of a magic or supernatural nature itself.
For the different parts of the sword we have:
Blad - blade
Underhjalt - crossguard
Overhjalt - pommel
Sverdknapp - pommel
Grep - grip
Mellomhjalt - i've seen this term used for the grip as well, though it might be of a more modern origin.
Modern definitions of sword types are:
Sverd - general term, often used to describe single-handed types
Langsverd - longsword
Bastardsverd - bastardsword
Tohåndssverd - two-handed sword
Rapir - rapier
Kårde - rapier, foil, epee
Breisverd/bredsverd - broadsword
Johan Schubert Moen
|
|
|
|
Jean Le-Palud
|
Posted: Fri 16 Feb, 2007 9:18 am Post subject: |
|
|
For what I know, here is the french for some of the english terms:
English French
Sword Epée
Blade Lame
Thrusting sword Estoc
To thrust Frapper d'estoc
Scimitar Cimeterre (oriental sabre)
Sabre Sabre
Cutlass Sabre d'abordage (navy)
Two-handed sword Epée à deux mains
Rapier Rapière
|
|
|
|
Vincent Le Chevalier
|
Posted: Fri 16 Feb, 2007 12:24 pm Post subject: |
|
|
I can add a number of French terms:
Coup de taille - a cut
Fauchon - falchion
Epée de cour - small-sword
Fleuret - foil
Epée à garde panier - Basket hilt sword
Epée à une main et demie - Hand and a half sword
Emoussé - blunt
For the parts of the sword:
Pommeau - pommel
Fusée - grip
Soie - tang
Tranchant - edge
Faux tranchant - false edge
Gorge, gouttière - fuller
Fort - strong
Faible - weak
Arc de jointure - knuckle guard
Anneaux de côté - side rings
Pas d'âne - finger rings
Fourreau - scabbard
Gaine - sheath
And some other weapons:
Masse d'armes - mace
Fléau d'armes - flail
Marteau d'armes - War hammer
Bouclier - shield
Framée - a spear used mainly by the Franks
Angon - a throwing spear used by the Franks (akin to the pilum)
Guisarme - bill
Corsèque - spiedo
Pertuisane - Partisan
And I'm sure I still forget many things :-)
Regards
--
Vincent
Ensis Sub Caelo
|
|
|
|
Glen A Cleeton
|
Posted: Tue 20 Feb, 2007 12:19 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Thanks for the additions folks.
The etymology of words is always fascinating to me and every little bit feeds that. What we see as the English description/definition often has much more distant roots. It is helpful to me, in more than just arms study.
Cheers
GC
|
|
|
|
|
You cannot post new topics in this forum You cannot reply to topics in this forum You cannot edit your posts in this forum You cannot delete your posts in this forum You cannot vote in polls in this forum You cannot attach files in this forum You can download files in this forum
|
All contents © Copyright 2003-2024 myArmoury.com All rights reserved
Discussion forums powered by phpBB © The phpBB Group
Switch to the Basic Low-bandwidth Version of the forum
|