| J. Bedell wrote: |
| Manouchehr,
Thanks for posting all of those photos! -James |
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| Manouchehr - please accept my thanks, as well, for your wonderful pictures. One thing that strikes me about the photos is that the Musée de l'Armée seems to give some pieces nice, individual displays. Other pieces, however, like the swords from 1500-1600, posted above, are all pushed together such that it is difficult to see much detail in any individual sword. I wonder, how large is the museum? I have the impression that they are short of space. |
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| I do not know why the last picture does not show :-( |
| Gordon Frye wrote: |
| Manouchehr;
Again, many thanks for posting more pictures! It is very much appreciated, and food for thought and discussion. :) Interesting how the museum staff listed the center armour as a "lansquenet demi-armour" when it looks to me that it quite obviously has a lance arrêt fixed to the breastplate! :eek: [ Linked Image ] I should think that they would have called it a chevaux-lèger armour instead. Interesting! Thank you again! Allons! Gordon |
| Nathan Robinson wrote: | ||
It does show. It simply shows as a link rather than an in-line photo because of its size. This is described in our help page. |
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| Manouchehr M. wrote: |
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Gordon You are very welcome my friend. Thank you very much for your clarification. I really appreciate it. Could you please explain these types more in detail to me? Thanks. Kind regards Manouchehr |
| Gordon Frye wrote: | ||
Certainly. The two flanking armours look very much to be the standard "corselets" or Infantry type armours of the mid-16th Century as used in Western Europe, and popularly used by the German mercenary Infantry, the Lansknechts. (In French, "lansquenets" These armours could also be used by many species of light Cavalry as well without difficulty so often there is a challenge in deciding if one of these armours is for either Infantry or Cavalry. However, the one in the center, with the little hook hanging down from the right side of the breastplate, is indicitive of the use of a lance, and a fairly heavy one at that. The hook is called an arrêt, or "arrest", though often wrongly refered to as a "Lance Rest". It was designed more to stop the rearward movement of the lance when it contacted the target rather than as a rest for holding the weight of the lance, thus the difference in the names given. As the armour is still fairly light (rather than being head-to-toe, with a close helmet) my suspicion that it was for a chevaux-lèger. They were officially "Light Cavalry" but only in comparison with the Gendarmerie, which was VERY heavy Cavalry, and accoutred very much as your picture of Louis XIII shows. Very interesting picture of the Turkish Heavy Cavalry armour too, which looks as though it would stand up well to the standard barrage of arrows as used in Eastern combat, and rather akin to the old cataphract armours of the Persians, no? Thank you! This is an area in which my ignorance starts to show, so help here is appreciated... :confused: Allons! Gordon Gordon |
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| Hisham Gaballa wrote: |
| Great to see you here Manouchehr, and thanks for sharing your wonderful photos. :)
You wouldn't happen to have a close-up of the helmet on the Turkish equestrian armour, would you? BTW, I also found the helmet of Sultan Bayazid fascinating as it seems to be a hybrid of the Iranian-type "Turban helmets" and the Turkish style 'chichak', do you have any other pictures of it? Gordon, we had a thread on Russian armour a few months ago: :) http://www.myArmoury.com/talk/viewtopic.php?t=8516&highlight= |
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