myArmoury.com - Request for Albion

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Thu 30 Nov, 2006 1:31 pm

Another Type XVIa sword would be nice, though I suspect there's probably plans for one. I'd also like to see this sword which I've mentioned in a previous thread: http://www.myArmoury.com/view.html?features/pic_spotxx06.jpg. A cinquedea of some sort would be cool, as would more two handed swords. Finally, I'd like to second the request for a seax; though in truth I have no intention of buying one, I think it is an important addition to the Next Gen line.

Out of curiousity, what is it specifically that attracts people to bronze age swords? Though I've seen several in museums of late, they aren't particularly of interest to me. I admire their unusual profile taper but I have no desire at this point to own a replica of one. Is there an appeal to them that I'm missing?

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J. Bedell

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Posts: 226 Location: Maryland, USA

Thu 30 Nov, 2006 2:00 pm

Perhaps a line of daggers? That would be a dream come true!!

I second the vote for Byzantine weapons!

-James

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Jean Thibodeau

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Posts: 8,310 Location: Montreal,Quebec,Canada

Thu 30 Nov, 2006 2:24 pm

Craig Peters wrote:

Another Type XVIa sword would be nice, though I suspect there's probably plans for one. I'd also like to see this sword which I've mentioned in a previous thread: http://www.myArmoury.com/view.html?features/pic_spotxx06.jpg. A cinquedea of some sort would be cool, as would more two handed swords. Finally, I'd like to second the request for a seax; though in truth I have no intention of buying one, I think it is an important addition to the Next Gen line.

Out of curiousity, what is it specifically that attracts people to bronze age swords? Though I've seen several in museums of late, they aren't particularly of interest to me. I admire their unusual profile taper but I have no desire at this point to own a replica of one. Is there an appeal to them that I'm missing?

Bronze weapons: A certain fascination with the weight and colour of bronze as well as curiosity about performance as a cutter assuming that the edges are work-hardened like period pieces and well sharpened. There were bronze razors so a good edge is possible even if the edge would be less durable at that level of sharpness.

Also, even with a current interest in mostly the Medieval I can at times be interested in swords ( arms ) outside this period from bronze swords to a rapier that I don't have a single example of at the moment.

Finally, I just like bronze swords as " art " objects: Like the aesthetics. ;)

Oh, and I agree with a nice Seax being part of the Albion line as well as a cinquedea or other kinds of large daggers.

Although, I think Albion has to avoid overextending itself and concentrate on getting already proposed but not in production models made. ( Just to fulfill those expectations before creating new ones. )

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Travis Canaday

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Posts: 147 Location: Overland Park, Kansas

Thu 30 Nov, 2006 4:00 pm

I have asked about about daggers. It probably won't happen because the amount of R&D and labour hours is about as much as a sword. That's what I have heard. Not too many people are willing to pay $400 to $600 for a dagger.

I would love to see an Albion rondel though!

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Aaron J. Cergol

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Thu 30 Nov, 2006 4:23 pm

I second the Rondels. cna never have enough rondels. :D

just my $.02,

Aaron

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Dustin R. Reagan

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Thu 30 Nov, 2006 4:32 pm

Greg Coffman wrote:

I would also like to see a true Type XIII as depicted in Peter Johnsson's drawing found in the Oakshott article at Albion's website.

http://www.albion-swords.com/articles/oakeshott-typology.htm

The broad blade, double fullers, elongated grip (but not two-handed), flare towards the base of the blade...all very, very nice.

I second Greg. I would buy this sword as soon as it was announced...

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Robert Zamoida

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Posts: 228 Location: Davis Monthan AFB, AZ

Thu 30 Nov, 2006 6:25 pm

1. Cavalry sabers! Specifically the British Patterns 1796 Light and Heavy, Pattern 1822 Light and the Pattern 1853. (By the way, what happened to the Patton Sword?) Overall though, this class of sword deserves some quality production representation. :)

2. A Type Xa/XI with the hilt of Type Xa.10.

3. If there's any thought about expanding into other cultures then Chinese swords.

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David Lannon

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Posts: 129 Location: East Bay California

Fri 01 Dec, 2006 8:38 pm

Wish List!!!!

OOOOOHHHH, a true Germanic Two handed sword with complex guard and parrying hooks.

And a Swiss bastard saber with a complex basket hilt.

And a bastard Katzbalger

And a nice Sottish tea strainer

And a Germanic basket hilt

And, and , and........

Ok, I'll step away from the Baleys.....

Cheers
Dave

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Roger Hooper

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Posts: 4,393 Location: Northern California

Sat 02 Dec, 2006 7:27 am

I wonder if there is any way you can recreate that great guard, the one on XI.5 in Oakeshott's, Records. This is the one with the minimalist beast heads carved at each end of the guard. I guess you would have to mount it on an XI blade.

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Matt Corbin

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Posts: 336 Location: U.S.A.

Sat 09 Dec, 2006 5:51 pm

I would love to see some more Migration type swords.
Perhaps something along the lines of the Sutton Hoo sword in overall design and proportions, but in a simplified form.

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Jeremiah Swanger

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Posts: 556 Location: Central PA

Sat 09 Dec, 2006 11:30 pm

Re: Request for Albion

Jeremy V. Krause wrote:

Here's a quick post,

Albion, Peter, Howy, whoever- please make a single handed high middle age single handed sword with a tea cozy pommel.

Thanks,
Jeremy

Though I imagine Peter, Howard, and crew may be getting a little tired of the constant deluge of requests, I've taken a step back from this thread for over a week now thinking about a serious reply. But, I have to take into account that I am currently not an Albion customer, nor will I be in the near future, as it took me a lot of scrimping and saving in order to buy a discounted, plain-jane ATrim for $300 (which, by the way, is an excellent sword for practicing single-handed cutting technique, IMHO). Needless to say, it may not necessarily be in Albion's best interest to act on my own personal desires.

What I've decided to do instead is take a look at the sword market as-is and identify the current gaps. I'm also limiting my suggestions to medieval examples, as my taste and knowledge gets fairly cloudy outside the 11th-15th centuries...

1) A Type XIII, as per the one many others on this thread have been suggesting. Those who love beefy cutters will certainly go ape over it. I think this one presents a solid business case.

2) An early-medieval singlehander with a Tea-Cozy pommel. Making it with the same blade as the Reeve and Bayeaux would certainly be an obvious choice, though I think we can add a little more unique-ness to it by making a special blade, of, say, Type XIa. I think a slightly slimmer, more acute variant, like the XIa showed in THIS PICTURE from this very website would be a good choice.

3) A BIG Type XIV. I once scoffed at the notion of a hand-and-a-half Type XIV, but then I saw the sketch Peter drew for a custom job for one of the forumites (Jeff Ellis, if I remember correctly?), and I had to say it was unique and it was beautiful. An alternative would be a larger single-handed XIV like the one in the center of THIS PICTURE, again, from some obscure, sword-related website ;) Perhaps it could feature a 5" grip, like some XVIIIa's? I'd recommend keeping the subtle flare before the cross, as it does a beautiful job of setting off the curved taper of the blade.

4) A Type XVIIIc. I had also considered suggesting an XVIIId, but it might interfere too much with the single-handed XIX's, which seem to fill the same functional gap...

5) A Type XIX bastard sword with a symmetrical 4-ring hilt. Erik Stevensson did a few of these back in the day-- so did Christian Fletcher when he first started out as a cutler, but I haven't seen any for quite some time now.

6) Even though my interest pretty much ends with the XVIII's, a Type XXI or XXII with a Spanish-flavored hilt might hit a substantial market niche...

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Craig Peters

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Mon 11 Dec, 2006 7:19 am

Has anyone suggested an estoc yet? If not, they'd be a good addition, especially given that they are not well represented in the market for replicas.

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