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Chris McDonough
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 Posted: Fri 08 Dec, 2006 5:52 am Post subject: Question about a sword |
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i just stumbled across this wonderful site trying to find a sword online. i have been searching for the right sword to buy on my limited budget. i was interested in the sir william marshall sword by paul chen(damascus steel), if familiar. i came across a review for the carbon steel blade here and found it very useful. the review also put up a couple of flags, these being mainly about the construction. i am fairly new to the sword realm and have a comparatively small but general knowledge of swords. as i said i want a sword but not "just" a sword, i want a sword to be mine as a tool and accent of myself. being a newcomer and of limited finances i can only afford a smaller amount but i would like to know if you can help me out as far as some advice about the sword or another of similar style.
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Addison C. de Lisle
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I'm not sure about the Damascus William Marshall Sword, but I know that the "damascus" on the Godfred Viking sword isn't real; it's just patterns etched into the fuller and IMO doesn't really look that great. If you want a sword I would suggest Albion or A&A, but if you have something of a budget then I would go with an Angus Trim sword, either directly from him or from Christan Fletcher for a bit more customization options.
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Chad Arnow
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| Addison C. de Lisle wrote: | | I'm not sure about the Damascus William Marshall Sword, but I know that the "damascus" on the Godfred Viking sword isn't real; it's just patterns etched into the fuller and IMO doesn't really look that great. If you want a sword I would suggest Albion or A&A, but if you have something of a budget then I would go with an Angus Trim sword, either directly from him or from Christan Fletcher for a bit more customization options. |
Actually, as far as I know, the Chen Godfred is made from a billet of pre-made random pattern-welded steel. If the whole blade were etched like the fuller, you'd see the pattern all over.
At least that's what I've always heard.
ChadA
http://chadarnow.com/
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Addison C. de Lisle
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The one I've seen didn't really look like real pattern-welded steel to me, but I could be wrong.
EDIT: Just realized that I'm thinking of this sword, not te Godfred Viking Sword.
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Chris McDonough
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| Posted: Fri 08 Dec, 2006 7:15 am Post subject: thanks |
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i have been on christian fletchers site for about an hour now!
thank you very much!
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Addison C. de Lisle
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| Posted: Fri 08 Dec, 2006 7:34 am Post subject: Re: thanks |
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| Chris McDonough wrote: | i have been on christian fletchers site for about an hour now!
thank you very much! |
Always glad to help you spend your money 
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Patrick Brown
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My advice would be: don't rush things. I know it's really tempting to buy the first sword you can afford (we've all been there), but, unfortunately, you'll often regret it. Spend a few months reading up- have a look at the bookstore- and working up some capital, then make an informed, quality purchase. If possible, handle the sword before you buy; I appreciate this is easier if you're in little old England than the US.
Sorry to preach so, but I really do feel that it's best to purchase once and well. I would second Addison's manufacturer recommendations.
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Patrick Kelly
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The Hanwei Godfred Isn't really a pattern welded blade persay, but rather a laminated one. The layers of steel (or whatever it is, I had one and the quality was abyssimal) are forged together in a straight line form of sandwich lamination. The fuller is then miled into the blade and acid etched, only in the fuller, in an attempt to give the blade the appearance of a period pattern welded blade.
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Jean Thibodeau
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| Patrick Kelly wrote: | | The Hanwei Godfred Isn't really a pattern welded blade persay, but rather a laminated one. The layers of steel (or whatever it is, I had one and the quality was abyssimal) are forged together in a straight line form of sandwich lamination. The fuller is then miled into the blade and acid etched, only in the fuller, in an attempt to give the blade the appearance of a period pattern welded blade. |
Mine doesn't seem too bad but I haven't done much to it to stress it. The blade does bend and spring back but I only tested this once or twice as it not good to bend any sword just for the sake of it and get into the bad a bit of bending it everytime you pick it up. A good file bites into the steel and in fact this is how I sharpened it: So it's fairly soft or at least softer than a 52 rc sword.
At 52 rc a file will cut / sharpen the steel but it make you work for it. A diamond steel or ceramic hone will do a better and faster job but a file can get you started.
The scabbard looks nice but not really period and I had to glue the furniture back on when they just fell off.
Seems expensive, unless bought at bargain price, for the quality. At the same price an Albion squire line sword would be better value.
And the simulated pattern welding is disappointing if one goes from the sales blurb only. Look good if one knows up front what it really is and again got it second hand at a lower price than what i got it for.
You can easily give up your freedom. You have to fight hard to get it back!
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M. Eversberg II
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I recommend the Albion Squire Line swords for a "first" sword if you want some decent quality you wont easily regret.
Good stuff, Albion.
M.
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