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Indeed: this type is still used here in the bullrings to give the mortally wounded bull a coup-de-grace. There should be a small crosspiece in the hole above the blade.
It serves no other usefull purpose and probably it was only made in Germany and used in the south of France. It's dating is very interesting too for corrida ' fans'.

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Wed 07 Jun, 2006 10:43 am

Peter Bosman wrote:

Iain Norman wrote:

A few of a the more interesting items:
http://cgi.liveauctions.ebay.com/2468-Spada-d...enameZWDVW

Indeed: this type is still used here in the bullrings to give the mortally wounded bull a coup-de-grace. There should be a small crosspiece in the hole above the blade.
It serves no other usefull purpose and probably it was only made in Germany and used in the south of France. It's dating is very interesting too for corrida ' fans'.

Peter

As it says, it's rather a hunting sword (caccia) than a bull-fighting sword. The correct term would be "Sau-Degen" or Boar-sword. The hole is meant for an additional "crossguard" to prevent the blade from penetrating too deeply into the boar. It was often used in a half-sword manner hence the ultra-long narrow ricasso. This type of weapon is not at all rare but was quite common, at least I've seen quite a few of them. I don't see any connection to the corrida at all. The bull-fighting swords used in spain look quite different to me.

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Thu 08 Jun, 2006 11:11 am

Wolfgang Armbruster wrote:

Peter Bosman wrote:

Iain Norman wrote:

A few of a the more interesting items:
http://cgi.liveauctions.ebay.com/2468-Spada-d...enameZWDVW

Indeed: this type is still used here in the bullrings to give the mortally wounded bull a coup-de-grace. There should be a small crosspiece in the hole above the blade.
It serves no other usefull purpose and probably it was only made in Germany and used in the south of France. It's dating is very interesting too for corrida ' fans'.

Peter

As it says, it's rather a hunting sword (caccia) than a bull-fighting sword. The correct term would be "Sau-Degen" or Boar-sword. The hole is meant for an additional "crossguard" to prevent the blade from penetrating too deeply into the boar. It was often used in a half-sword manner hence the ultra-long narrow ricasso. This type of weapon is not at all rare but was quite common, at least I've seen quite a few of them. I don't see any connection to the corrida at all. The bull-fighting swords used in spain look quite different to me.

That is because it in nót a bull-fighting sword but only used to severe the spinal cord. It would be useless for anything else as the blade is véry short. For boar I have only used and seen a 'hartsvanger' used, more like the sword used in bull'fíghting', just shorter.
For a spear-head the point would be a bit longer and the crossmember serve to avoid the weapon to get stuck in too deep and thus result in a weapon loss.
However, you may be correct for all I know as I did not hunt all that many boar and mayby it was used to finish off the boar in this manner too.

Peter

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Posts: 1,812 Location: Washington DC metro area, USA

Fri 09 Jun, 2006 4:23 pm

Chad Arnow wrote:

Albion Sempach: ...

This Albion Sempach has been RELISTED with a large reduction in price :!:

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Posts: 9,547 Location: Dayton, OH

Fri 09 Jun, 2006 4:28 pm

Steve Grisetti wrote:

Chad Arnow wrote:

Albion Sempach: ...

This Albion Sempach has been RELISTED with a large reduction in price :!:

A $350 Buy it Now? Wow. It shouldn't last long. If I didn't have one already, I wouldn't be able to pass that deal up.

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Posts: 94 Location: Bryan, TX

Mon 12 Jun, 2006 1:24 pm

Viking Blade ton ebay typology

Here's a blade up on ebay:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem...%26fvi%3D1

Something just looks off to me. It's claimed to be a 10th century "Petersen type:R variants, Wheeler type III". I'd like to see a third party authentication from somewhere other than the "museum" to see what they attribute it to.

I think it's the style of damascening that looks unusual on this one. I guess I would have expected pattern welding as well. Anyone got a spare $10k? :)

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Posts: 42 Location: Muscatine, IA, USA

Mon 12 Jun, 2006 2:45 pm

I found this one while browsing ebay earlier today:
http://cgi.ebay.com/An-Antique-Warrior-Sword-...dZViewItem

It is currently at GBP 95.00 ($175.05 USD) and ships worldwide. I'm not sure about its authenticity, but it's an interesting looking piece. The wooden pommel stands out to me as a bit odd. If I had the funds, I'd try for it just to get a better look.

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Posts: 1,812 Location: Washington DC metro area, USA

Mon 12 Jun, 2006 2:51 pm

Chad Sonderberg wrote:

I found this one while browsing ebay earlier today:
http://cgi.ebay.com/An-Antique-Warrior-Sword-...dZViewItem

It is currently at GBP 95.00 ($175.05 USD) and ships worldwide. I'm not sure about its authenticity, but it's an interesting looking piece. The wooden pommel stands out to me as a bit odd. If I had the funds, I'd try for it just to get a better look.

Of course, there are still a couple of days left on the auction. The price may change dramatically by then ... or not.

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Dan Dickinson

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Posts: 967 Location: Michigan

Mon 12 Jun, 2006 9:56 pm

Looks like a sudanese sword, can't remember the proper name right now.

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Mon 12 Jun, 2006 10:37 pm