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PostPosted: Tue 18 Apr, 2006 5:45 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Very nice!!! I printed it all out so that I can take it with me as I'm picking up/dropping off/waiting for/ the kids at various activities. It will be more fun to read than doing the usual Sudoku puzzles that I bring. Big Grin I will (eventually) be keeping it with my other reference materials. For now, it won't be put away. This is even better than Cliff notes. Laughing Out Loud

Seriously, this was an incredible update. The amount of work that was put into that article is unbelievable. It is a handy reference.

And the wallpaper is great, too. (Right now, I have the type XV on my screen, but that may change to XVII and then to...)

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PostPosted: Tue 18 Apr, 2006 10:26 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Pamela Muir wrote:
Very nice!!! I printed it all out so that I can take it with me as I'm picking up/dropping off/waiting for/ the kids at various activities. It will be more fun to read than doing the usual Sudoku puzzles that I bring. Big Grin I will (eventually) be keeping it with my other reference materials. For now, it won't be put away. This is even better than Cliff notes. Laughing Out Loud

Seriously, this was an incredible update. The amount of work that was put into that article is unbelievable. It is a handy reference.

And the wallpaper is great, too. (Right now, I have the type XV on my screen, but that may change to XVII and then to...)


One of the things that I think is great about the article (and I'm not picking on Pamella, I'm just including the quote to poijt out how each of us finds it valuable in different ways), is that it s to complex to just print out. I would have to print a page with line drawings, one with pictures, a copy of each spotlight link, and so on. It is a long and detailed articel by itself; with the links included, it become almost booklike in quantity of information (and of course, Oakeshott did publish that info in several books).

(This is the part where I do pick on Pamela (or myself, one of the two) just a bit) Soduku?!? How can you do those blasted puzzles? Don't you know that the Cryptoquip is immensely better? Of course I say that because I can't do a Soduku puzzle unles you give me a pencil an hour or two. The Cryptoquip can be done in 10-15 minutes with a pencil (and filled in using Futharken). Of course, I want to get to where I can read the quote without writting anything down. Cool

-Grey

P.S. I edited this post after Pamela had quoted it, but before I noticed it (first time in a year that that has happened to me Worried , I'm going to blame it on a slow internet connection). So, if the next post is slightly different, it's my fault.

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PostPosted: Tue 18 Apr, 2006 10:43 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Greyson Brown wrote:

One of the things that I think is great about the article (and I'm not picking on Pamela, I'm just including the quote to point out how each of us finds it valuable in different ways), is that it s to complex to just print out. I would have to print a page with line drawings, one with pictures, a copy of each spotlight link, and so on. It is a long and detailed articel by itself; with the links included, it become almost booklike in quantity of information (and of course, Oakeshott did publish that info in several books).

(This is the part where I do pick on Pamela (or myself, one of the two) just a bit) Soduku?!? How can you do those blasted puzzles? Don't you know that the Cryptoquip is immensely better?

-Grey


Grey, you can pick on me all you want. You'll just be one of the crowd. Happy

I don't intend to stop with the print out. It's just a portable way to get started. I will go back to the online version time and again, but having the printout at least points me to which page I want. Laughing Out Loud

I'm not familiar with Cryptoquip. Perhaps I'm better off not knowing. It might prove addicting also. Cool

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PostPosted: Tue 18 Apr, 2006 1:48 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

WOW! What an undertaking! I know how long it takes me to get around to do my piddly little reviews (I suppose procrastination has something to do with it Wink ), let alone something of this scope and caliber! Great job to all!
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PostPosted: Tue 18 Apr, 2006 2:28 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Nathan Robinson wrote:
Aaron Schneiker wrote:
Just a quick observation. I don't believe the line drawing of the type XVII came out as you intended. Looks like a single edged blade from the line drawing.

Otherwise, wow! Very informative article. I'm sure the collaborative effort is as much appreciated by everyone else here as it is myself.

-Aaron


It came out exactly how I intended. That is why it is in the article. I apologize for it not working so well. I'm not much of an illustrator and don't feel confident doing it, to be honest. Photos are my thing, but I'm trying to force myself to stretch into other things.

Honestly, thank you for your kind words and feedback.


Funny after going back through the article I find that some of the line drawings increased my appreciation for certain swords. Ones that I never like or even down right hated, I've learned to appreciate anew. I always disliked the XIIIB that you used and absolutely hated the XIA sword but I now find myself absolutely loving the XIA. The line drawing for the XIA made me realize the actual proportions of the original sword. Pretty cool.

So how did you all decide which swords to use to represent each type within the typology? I find the sword that you used for the XII to be particularly interesting.
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PostPosted: Tue 18 Apr, 2006 2:34 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Jason Elrod wrote:
Funny after going back through the article I find that some of the line drawings increased my appreciation for certain swords. Ones that I never like or even down right hated, I've learned to appreciate anew. I always disliked the XIIIB that you used and absolutely hated the XIA sword but I now find myself absolutely loving the XIA. The line drawing for the XIA made me realize the actual proportions of the original sword. Pretty cool.

I went through the same process. I found it's sometimes difficult to really "see" something's true shape and proportion through various components, their corrosion, etc. Simplifying it to an illustration really was my attempt to focus it into the item's base characteristics.

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So how did you all decide which swords to use to represent each type within the typology? I find the sword that you used for the XII to be particularly interesting.


Bill had some some original sketches that were going to be used instead of the line drawings. But based on the point made above, they were too detailed and we went the route of the line drawings instead. I just illustrated the swords he had already picked Happy

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PostPosted: Tue 18 Apr, 2006 4:13 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

The article is amazing and just what I had been wanting to read for a long time. I was so excited when i saw the article. Nice work and thankx a bunch. Big Grin
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PostPosted: Tue 18 Apr, 2006 6:37 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Nathan Robinson wrote:
Bill had some some original sketches that were going to be used instead of the line drawings. But based on the point made above, they were too detailed and we went the route of the line drawings instead. I just illustrated the swords he had already picked Happy


Yeah, as Nathan said, I originally make some drawings to use for the article. The thing is, though, that using Nathan's line drawings really pulled out the form with a clarity that detailed artwork couldn't capture... and if you wanted details, well, the photograph was already there. But the simple lines really do make certain elements stand out better in a two dimensional format. We originally toyed with using both the drawings and the line illustrations, but as soon as I saw the line illustrations I knew immediately that those were by far much better to use.

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PostPosted: Wed 19 Apr, 2006 5:23 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Brilliant!

The Oakeshott article is fantastic! It is the best and most comprehensive summary of his work that I've seen. Beginners to this field have all of the basic information on swords and sword types right at their fingertips, instead of having to leaf through several books to get the same information.

Kudos to the myArmoury team that put this together! This is another reason why this site is so good - the enthusiastic willingness of the members to share their detailed knowledge in a way that leaves me informed and eager for more.

Bloody brilliant!

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PostPosted: Fri 21 Apr, 2006 8:49 am    Post subject: Oakeshott article is superb!         Reply with quote

Gentlemen,

Thanks for the work on "Oakeshott: The Man and His Legacy."
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PostPosted: Mon 24 Apr, 2006 11:20 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Simply wonderful!
Finaly all the most important information in one piece.
Excellent work! Both in content and in way of information display.

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PostPosted: Tue 25 Apr, 2006 12:00 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Good job! This article was as nessesary as bread and water to live Happy Now basic information can be found in one place.
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PostPosted: Tue 25 Apr, 2006 2:54 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Yes again, very good: I've already referred to it a couple of times when thinking about new swords to buy. Cool Big Grin
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