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Bill Grandy
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 Posted: Thu 06 Apr, 2006 10:54 pm Post subject: New pics of custom stuff at A&A |
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Check out the news section at A&A:
http://www.arms-n-armor.com/news.html
I love the looks of that colichemarde! And I can speak from personal experience that the two hander is one cool monster, as I had it here for a little while before it was sent to the owner!
HistoricalHandcrafts.com
-Inspired by History, Crafted by Hand
"For practice is better than artfulness. Your exercise can do well without artfulness, but artfulness is not much good without the exercise.” -anonymous 15th century fencing master, MS 3227a
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Steve Grisetti
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| Posted: Fri 07 Apr, 2006 4:20 am Post subject: Re: New pics of custom stuff at A&A |
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| Bill Grandy wrote: | | ...I love the looks of that colichemarde!.... |
I agree! That piece is a beauty! I also like the Gustav Vasa rapier with the bronze (or is it gold-plated?) hilt in the section on "Exhibitions and Productions Featuring Items from Arms & Armor".
"...dismount thy tuck, be yare in thy preparation, for thy assailant is quick, skilful, and deadly."
- Sir Toby Belch
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Nathan Robinson
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Steve Grisetti
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| Posted: Fri 07 Apr, 2006 5:00 am Post subject: |
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| Nathan Robinson wrote: | It's gold plated  |
I thought that it looked like gold, but, I figured that, if it is meant for stage use, bronze might make more sense. Wow. It makes my standard GV rapier look "ho-hum"!
"...dismount thy tuck, be yare in thy preparation, for thy assailant is quick, skilful, and deadly."
- Sir Toby Belch
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Joe Fults
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| Posted: Fri 07 Apr, 2006 9:03 am Post subject: |
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Now that's an update!
"The goal shouldn’t be to avoid being evil; it should be to actively do good." - Danah Boyd
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Kenton Spaulding
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| Posted: Fri 07 Apr, 2006 10:01 am Post subject: |
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I love that custom hand and a half. Now that is sweet work! Also the writhen rapier in gold  droool!
Kenton
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Mark Mattimore
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I have coveted the GV rapier for years... and now a gold-plated version. Be still my beating heat.  
I also really like that two-handed Katzbalger. I've seen pictures in books and here: http://www.myArmoury.com/albums/photo/4133.html
but never seen one reproduced. Very cool.
Oooo my poor bank account. This hobby takes bigger chunks out of me every year.
In omnibus requiem quaesivi, et nusquam inveni nisi in angulo cum libro.
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Bill Grandy
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Yeah, the gold plating is amazing. I'm not a huge fan of the Elizabethan rapier (it's gorgeous for what it is, I've just never been a fan of that design on originals)... seeing it with the gold plating, though, really changes my mind about it...
Although it did get me thinking about bronze fittings (Steve wasn't the only one who wasn't sure at first glance). Has anyone ever seen bronze hilted rapiers before? I've seen a lot of gilted ones, but I can't recall bronze.
Craig, does the gold plating make a noticable difference in handling? I'd imagine it would at least a little bit.
HistoricalHandcrafts.com
-Inspired by History, Crafted by Hand
"For practice is better than artfulness. Your exercise can do well without artfulness, but artfulness is not much good without the exercise.” -anonymous 15th century fencing master, MS 3227a
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G. Scott H.
Location: Arizona, USA Joined: 22 Feb 2005
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| Bill Grandy wrote: | | Although it did get me thinking about bronze fittings (Steve wasn't the only one who wasn't sure at first glance). |
A bit off topic, but since you mentioned A&A and bronze hilts in the same post, it got me thinking about something that's been bugging me recently. To wit, the bronze hilts in the pictures of the A&A Henry V and Classic Dagger in Chad's collection look like brass. Is this just the way the pics were taken, or do A&A's bronze fittings really have a yellow, brassy look to them? I've always liked the look of bronze due to its orange/red, coppery look. 
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Bill Grandy
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Part of it depends on how it's polished. A lot of bronze will look more like brass when given a high polish. Similarly, a lot of brass will look almost silver when given a high polish.
HistoricalHandcrafts.com
-Inspired by History, Crafted by Hand
"For practice is better than artfulness. Your exercise can do well without artfulness, but artfulness is not much good without the exercise.” -anonymous 15th century fencing master, MS 3227a
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G. Scott H.
Location: Arizona, USA Joined: 22 Feb 2005
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| Bill Grandy wrote: | | Part of it depends on how it's polished. A lot of bronze will look more like brass when given a high polish. Similarly, a lot of brass will look almost silver when given a high polish. |
Interesting. I wonder if the particular alloy also has an effect on color? I've heard people refer to "red" bronze, so I wonder if there's also a "yellow" bronze, or something like that? The new pic of the Gustav Vasa and main gauche that Steve mentions looks more like what I think of when I think of bronze.
http://www.arms-n-armor.com/images/projects_globe04.jpg
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Chad Arnow
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Bronze can vary in color a great deal. If the copper content is higher, you can get a more reddish hue. The bronze DT uses (or used to use) does that; I loved the bronze pommel on my old DT2140. A&A uses a bronze that is more yellow. I believe it's a tinnier bronze. The dagger and Henry V were very yellow but patinate much differently than brass. My ArmArt's bronze fittings are somewhere in between what DT uses and what A&A and Albion use in terms of yellowness. It's is normally a little more reddish than my Sovereign or A&A dagger but not as much as the DT I used to own.
It has more to do with alloy content and ratios than polishing I believe.
ChadA
http://chadarnow.com/
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Steve Grisetti
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| Posted: Fri 07 Apr, 2006 5:42 pm Post subject: |
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| Chad Arnow wrote: | | ...It has more to do with alloy content and ratios than polishing I believe. |
This is my impression, as well.
"...dismount thy tuck, be yare in thy preparation, for thy assailant is quick, skilful, and deadly."
- Sir Toby Belch
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Craig Johnson
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Evenin Guys
Yes the Bronze will vary by allow and really by batch as I will have some lots that are distinctly more red than others all using the same spec material. It can be difficult if you are trying for a very specific color.
The Gold can vary as well depending on what is used as far as the plating recipe 9they have a couple to try to match chrome gold to antique type gold and the polish under the gold affects the finished look as well.
We use a commercial silicone bronze which is very strong.
Bill the weight is not noticeable. The plating or the leaf is so thin as to weigh far less than the human hand/mind connection can detect.
Let me kow if I missed a question. Its a bit nuts at the moment.
Craig
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Chris Olsen
Location: Saint Paul Joined: 23 Mar 2006
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I have a german branch sword from AA that they gold plated last year for me, and just as Craig said I honestly cant tell a diffrence in the weight between the same sword with bronze pieces and admittedly I can't tell the diffrence in steel either but I might not be paying close enough attention... and yes they are crazy over there I was there today to visit and was treated to watching several boxes of sword parts being born.. in wax at the moment.. maybe i should have cried, or been all warm and fuzzy inside  but none the less they are going to be very busy little beavers over the next few months.
<insert Jedi mind powers here>
So order lots of stuff from them.
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Tim Lison
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Some good stuff on this update! That huge katz is outrageous!
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Stephen A. Fisher
Location: Kentucky USA Joined: 17 Oct 2003
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Hey Craig,
I'm speechless. 
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