How to attach straps on a shield -- myArmoury.com

Anders Kramer · Posted: Sat 04 Mar, 2006 5:01 am Post subject: How to attach straps on a shield

Hi,

I have startet on making a Heatershield, but i've run into a problem. How do i attach the straps on the shield?
I could bolt them on, but it looks like sh... well, you know what i mean. does anyone know how they did it back "then"?

Regards
Anders

Hisham Gaballa

Anders Kramer · Posted: Sat 04 Mar, 2006 6:14 am Post subject:

thanks, but i don't think that's quite what i'm looking for, but thanks! Happy

Dan Howard · Posted: Sat 04 Mar, 2006 3:00 pm Post subject:

The inside layer of hide/parchment can be slit four times creating two "straps" than can be pulled out. Use cord to bind these together to form a handgrip. The advantage of this is that there are four anchor points rather than the normal two.

Merv Cannon · Posted: Sat 04 Mar, 2006 6:02 pm Post subject: Shield Straps

Hi Anders..........well......."back then".......straps were usually riveted on using rivets similar to the ones used in making harness (armour) The shields were not too thick and heavy as they used special woods like Limewood. The limewood was fairly light and could 'grab' a sword on the edge when struck often giving the user a couple of precious seconds advantage. Limewood is also very springy and will absorb much of the energy of the blow which otherwise will transfer through the arm to the body. Limewood, or Basswood, is fairly expensive. I'd love to make a heater with this wood eventually though. The smaller rivet heads are visable on the outside of the shield and you can see the holes on photos of the originals, of which there are not many. Usually the rivet-heads were peaned on the inside over washers which were placed over the leather straps. The washers were often made, again like the harness, of square section with the corners clipped off rather than the usual round ones. Usually there were two straps one up near the elbow and one for the hand near the wrist which could be gripped or sometimes the hand could slide through to grasp horse-reins, etc. Its seems that it was the strap near the elbow which was secured more tightly often having a buckle. The placement of the straps in relation to the shield position seems to be a matter of choice of the individual as some were comparatively horizontal and others were quite diagonal whatever was comfortable and suited the style of the indivual. ( In the Bayeaux Tap. some straps appear even vertically mounted ! ) Additionally, there was usually a longer strap so that the combatant could be free to throw the shield over the shoulder and fight with two hands or ride with two hands, etc. People back then faced the same problems that we do today, ie they didnt want their good shield which had been gessoed and gilded or silvered to be all bashed up in combat or sparing. Some were real works of art, so they had a fighting shield too (several) unless they were a poor knight or footsoldier who wouldnt have had a nice arty shield in the first place. This is how 'Parade shields' developed.
I cant find my illustrations of the strapping at the moment and I have to go to training...when I get back I'll have a good look for you......Hope this has been of some help........Cheers.

Dan Howard · Posted: Sun 05 Mar, 2006 4:07 pm Post subject:

The method of making a strap I outlined seems to have been common in Germany and is described in some detail in Jan Kohlmorgen's Der Mittelalterliche Reiterschild, (Karfunkel: 2002). 105.

Anders Kramer · Posted: Mon 06 Mar, 2006 6:01 am Post subject:

Thanks a LOT Merv! That is really a lot of help, i am looking forvard to compleeting my shield with this new knowledge.
And if you could find that illustration, i would be even gladder, but don't hurt yourself trying Wink

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Regards
Anders

Elling Polden · Posted: Mon 06 Mar, 2006 6:34 am Post subject:

The long strap, or guige, is very handy for slogging your shield around. It is posible to improvise one by slipping a belt trough the hand straps, but riveting one in place is preferable.

On the my latest shield the guige is tied together instead of beeing fited with a buckle; This means that you can adjust the length of the guige freely, from quite tight for extended carrying, to loose for fighting...

Riveting is definitely preferable for the straps. I'm a slob at doing this, wich means that the above mentioned shield hasn't been used a lot because the straps keep coming of... Sad

Hisham Gaballa · Posted: Mon 06 Mar, 2006 6:39 am Post subject:

When you rivet leather directly to something though, doesn't the leather just tear?

Elling Polden · Posted: Mon 06 Mar, 2006 6:54 am Post subject:

You might need a washer. In my experience, tearing thick leather is not something you need to worry about. The bigest problem is wear and tear gradually expanding the holes.

Of course, you could just get solid nails, and bend them on the back, but it's not as pretty or solid as rivets...

Geoff Wood · Posted: Mon 06 Mar, 2006 2:58 pm Post subject: