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PostPosted: Tue 18 Oct, 2005 6:24 pm    Post subject: Looking for a Matchlock Musket         Reply with quote

Alright well i know this site is about arms and swords but i was wondering if anyone knows someone who makes live firing matchlocks for a decendent price so please if anyone could help out i would appricate it
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PostPosted: Tue 18 Oct, 2005 6:29 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

This doesn't belong in the Marketplace because you're asking questions about who makes these things, about pricing, etc. You're not looking for a private seller, so I'm moving it to the right forum.

Please see the Marketplace Forum Rules for more info.

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PostPosted: Tue 18 Oct, 2005 6:47 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Peter;

There are some custom makers out there and some other sources that sell Matchlock, here is one site that offers an early period matchlock.

http://www.historicenterprises.com/cart.php?m...t&c=24

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PostPosted: Tue 18 Oct, 2005 8:43 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Peter it's been a while since I bought mine but Dixie Gun works used to carry a very decent matchlock musket. It fuuny you should bring this up as Gordon Frey (who i'm sure will chime in here with some other sources for you) and I were just talking Sunday night about how it would be great if there were more suppliers of these out there .
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PostPosted: Wed 19 Oct, 2005 5:24 am    Post subject: Muskets         Reply with quote

Albion Small Arms and Derbyshire Historic Arms in the UK. Albion Small Arms is at http://www.albion-small-arms.freeserve.co.uk/. Their Tower pattern musket is just sex on legs....Shame about the huge waiting list!

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PostPosted: Wed 19 Oct, 2005 6:09 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

My group has purchased 90% of our pieces through Syke's Sutlery. They generally carry pieces by John Buck. We've been using the pieces for about 10 years now with good results. The only complaint I have is that the main spring in my doglock has broken twice in three years. It looks to be a problem with the metal in the spring, as if it was a bad cast. The matchlocks we have though are robust.
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PostPosted: Wed 19 Oct, 2005 5:26 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

You might try www.therifleshoppe.com as well. Big selection. Most are sld dissassembled but they will build certain ones to order.
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PostPosted: Wed 19 Oct, 2005 6:59 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

I'll echo Chris' comments about John Buck. Although from what I understand, Sykes is not carrying any more firearms, John is still merrily making them. He has email musketmart@gcronline.com but prefers that folks just call him at (434) 724-1607. He's a hoot to talk to, and his stuff is quite functional. In fact, our local Schuetzenfest was won by a fellow shooting one of John's matchlocks!

There are a couple of other makers out there, but to my knowledge they're so far behind as to be scary. Dale Shinn in Sacramento, CA ( http://home.earthlink.net/~dgshinn/companyinfo.html is his unit's website, and you can contact him through that) and Taylor Anderson in Granbury, TX: fortcomanche@yahoo.com . And of course the Dixie musket mentioned by Allan is top drawer.

You might also check out this website for more information, including a fairly complete list of the various vendors and makers of such cool items:

http://www.muzzleloadingforum.com/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php?Cat=

Go to the "Pre-Flintlock Firearms" and you'll find LOTS of cool info and discussion on matchlocks, wheellocks and the like.

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PostPosted: Wed 19 Oct, 2005 11:39 pm    Post subject: Thank you so much everyone         Reply with quote

Hey everyone who has replied to this post about matchlocks i am glad to see that i am not the only one who loves these rifles also thank you so much for all the information i really thank you keep them comming cause i love having the information that i need
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PostPosted: Thu 20 Oct, 2005 8:20 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Thanks for the head's up Gordon, I haven't contacted Syke's in a while about a piece. The only thing about Rifle Shoppe I have to say is make sure the pieces are in stock when you order them. Then you should do ok, other wise their wait times can be very long!
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PostPosted: Thu 20 Oct, 2005 9:19 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Chris;

You bet, glad to help. Dale Shinn gave me the heads-up on that, which he got from John Buck himself. I'd give Sykes a try though, since they may still have some stock, but then fall back on John's goods.

Per Rifle Shoppe, as you said, their products are very nice, but not always available any time soon. I have a BEAUTIFUL Snaphaunce Musket lock that I got from them, awaiting my acquisition of a decent barrel and chunk of lumber, and I couldn't be happier with the workmanship of the lock. (The parts are mostly cast, BTW, but still, VERY good quality). However, it was in stock, ready to ship when I ordered it.

I would LOVE to see one of their Wheellocks made up, just to check them out. Or should I say, I would LOVE to HAVE one of their early Wheellocks to slap into a carbine stock, LOL!

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PostPosted: Thu 20 Oct, 2005 10:31 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

I hear you! I'm trying to do some work on a snaphaunce lock this winter. I've got a petronel stock partially shaped and a barrel waiting to be dropped into it. Just have to get down to the forge/workshop to get some work done.

I'll send you some pictures once I get further along.

Dale's the fellow with the leather gun right? I've got to get myself out west to see that thing in action!

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PostPosted: Thu 20 Oct, 2005 11:08 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Chris;

Indeed, Dale Shinn is the man with the Swedish Leather Gun! It's quite the interesting item, I must say. Makes a nice boom, too, LOL!

Hey, if you are able to, come on out the first weekend of April for our School of the Renaissance Soldier! We could use a few more practiced fellows to stiffen the ranks... I'm serious, you know. (It's fine and green in Northern California then, a nice change from the chill of your Northern Winters!)

Cheers!

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PostPosted: Fri 21 Oct, 2005 6:50 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Gordon-

If there is a way I can swing it with my first child due at the end of January, I will. Otherwise It might have to be a as soon as I can thing. Happy

To keep this thread on track here are some pictures of an original snaphaunce lock, as requested.







Enjoy!

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PostPosted: Fri 21 Oct, 2005 9:03 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Chris;

Sweet Snaphaunce Lock you have there! Very cool. Morrocan, do you think, or European? I understand that there was quite a trade from Holland in such locks until quite late, when the locals started up their own production.

Here's a pic of my built lock from TRS. They do great work, it's just getting it out of them that seems to be the challenge!

And with Child No. 1 due in January, we won't hold our breath for your attendence at the School of the Renaissance Soldier in April! But hey, if there is a way, then we'll welcome you with open arms!

Cheers!

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PostPosted: Fri 21 Oct, 2005 9:40 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

That's a very nice looking piece Gordon! Did you have them assemble it, or did you do that yourself? I was thinking about chancing a castings set for the snaphaunce lock, but have been kinda leary about it. If I can make it down, I'll try to drag some of my other guys down too. Maybe even Henry Sidney, the 1560's bronze swivel gun. Happy

As to the lock I pictured, I'me fairly certain its non-European. I have no other information on it other than the pictures though unfortunately.

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PostPosted: Fri 21 Oct, 2005 10:05 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Chris;

The lock picture is off of the TRS website, but is identical to the one they sent to me. I was lucky enough to get a built one (they offered it on eBay, oddly enough, but that way I KNEW it was "in stock", as it were!) However, IF you get a kit, it ought not be too horribly difficult to build up. However, they don't come with any plans or pilot holes or anything, so they can be a challenge, I'm told. However, they DO work when they're together!

Here's a pic of the guts of the Snaphaunce lock, along with my Middlesex Village Trading Co. Doglock for a pistol, and my Charleville musket lock for comparison of the innards of each. All are at "Full Cock", of course.

Oh, I think it would be GREAT if you could bring out "Henry Sydney"! We'll use him to keep any Irish in line, LOL!

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PostPosted: Tue 15 Nov, 2005 7:38 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Sorry for the bit of thread-nomancy but I wanted to put up a couple of pictures of a lock from one of our calivers. Its about 10 years old so pardon the aged look. Happy

The firing mechanism is very basic for those that want to make it.



Inside of lock


Outside of Lock

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PostPosted: Sun 26 Mar, 2006 5:39 am    Post subject: Re: Looking for a Matchlock Musket         Reply with quote

Peter Ostroskie wrote:
Alright well i know this site is about arms and swords but i was wondering if anyone knows someone who makes live firing matchlocks for a decendent price so please if anyone could help out i would appricate it
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You might want to take a look at John Buck's website http://www.handgonne.com/johnbuck

His work can be seen in the movie The New World, he made 42 matchlocks for that picture. And his prices are definitely reasonable.

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PostPosted: Sun 26 Mar, 2006 7:29 am    Post subject: Re: Looking for a Matchlock Musket         Reply with quote

Robt Maser wrote:

You might want to take a look at John Buck's website http://www.handgonne.com/johnbuck

His work can be seen in the movie The New World, he made 42 matchlocks for that picture. And his prices are definitely reasonable.


Hey, Robert, good to see you on this list! Good place to hang out and enjoy exchanging information, and quite as civil as the Muzzleloading Forum. Maybe we can get some more good discussions going on early period firearms here!

BTW, I concur, John makes some good, serviceable matchlocks, and I look forward to his expanding his early flintlock line-up as well! One of our guys won our Schutzenfest last September with one of John's guns, in fact. Can't complain about that!

Cheers!

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