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Patrick Kelly
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 Posted: Tue 27 Sep, 2005 1:33 pm Post subject: Two interesting helmets. |
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Here are a couple of interesting (supposedly) antique helmets. This is my favorite type of helmet and I find these very interesting, so I thought I'd post them up for comment.
http://www.pbase.com/khp_plk/antique_armor
There were mentioned on the Armour Archive as coming from the following source:
Peirce, Ian. "The Knight, his arms and armour" c.1150-1250" Anglo-Norman Studies: Proceedings of the XV Battle Conference. Woodbridge: Boydell and Brewer Limited, 1993.
It's a pity they've disappeared into the world of the private collection since there are so few helmets of this type available for study.
"In valor there is hope.".................. Tacitus
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Joe Yurgil
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Those are some pretty nice pictures there, Patrick. I've always liked the way they look too.
Sjá, þar sé ek föður minn.
Sjá, þar sé ek móður mina ok systur mina ok bróður minn.
Sjá, þar sé ek allan minn frændgarð.
Sjá, kalla þeim tíl min.
Biðja mér at taka minn stað hjá þeim í sölum Valhallar, þar drengiligr menn munu lifa allan aldr.
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Steve Grisetti
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I haven't paid a great deal of attention to helms like this in the past. The nasal on the spangenhelm is much fatter and deeper than on reproductions I have noticed before, so I guess this would provide "more" facial protection. And the shape of the Olmutz is much more...conical(?), where I would typically picture something more dome-like. The mockup on the manniquin head with the Olmutz seems to offer a great deal of protection via the maille coverage around a relatively small face opening.
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Hisham Gaballa
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Nice pictures, they give a much more detailed impression of 11th-12th century European "Norman"-style helmets.
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Jonathon Janusz
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I haven't been to the archive lately. Are there any more closeup pictures of the spangenhelm - I'm interested in the details. Thanks for the pics, Patrick.
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Patrick Kelly
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| Posted: Wed 28 Sep, 2005 5:41 am Post subject: |
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| Jonathon Janusz wrote: | | I haven't been to the archive lately. Are there any more closeup pictures of the spangenhelm - I'm interested in the details. Thanks for the pics, Patrick. |
Unfortunately those are the only ones.
"In valor there is hope.".................. Tacitus
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Carl Goff
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Very nice. The spangenhelm is especially interesting.
Oh, East of sands and sunlit gulf, your blood is thin, your gods are few;
You could not break the Northern wolf and now the wolf has turned on you.
The fires that light the coasts of Spain fling shadows on the Eastern strand.
Master, your slave has come again with torch and axe in his right hand!
-Robert E. Howard
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