[P Ullrich]

Looking for more information or even pics on how the following scabbard might be suspended. It would seem like straps attached to the rings would torque and twist the leather strap that goes around the scabbard.

[Victor R.]

This is one made for my Albion Landgraf by Tod (Leo Todeschini).

There's another chape-like bit further down the scabbard with a single ring to hold the scabbard at an angle. Part of a complex style of suspension. Tod does his research, so it should be accurate to at least one style extant to the latter 14th and 15th century.

[P Ullrich]

[Chad Arnow]

[Victor R.]

I was in a rush this morning when I posted the first picture - it was just a quick one of the Landgraf I keep downstairs. Attached here are some better pics of the Munich I keep with my armor on the upstairs landing - the Munich and Landgraf suspensions are identical in design. This suspension is fully "assembled" so you can see how it all goes together in context, and there are some closer shots of the various connection points.

As for Chad's comment - I don't have pictures or illustrations of the exemplars, but I'm sure Tod could point the way for you.

[Chad Arnow]

[P Ullrich]

Victor, thank you for the pictures, just what I wanted to see.

[Greyson Brown]

In my scabbard research (which might generously be called extensive, but is certainly not exhaustive), I've not come across an example of the suspension style shown in the original post, but it would be a feasible interpretation of many of the pictures that just show a line across the front of the scabbard that is equal width to the belt.

I see two possible ways of attaching this to a belt: 1) use a two part belt that attaches to the rings (either directly or via some kind of hardware) as shown in Victor's pictures, or 2) using a narrower belt that can be threaded through one ring, behind the body of the scabbard, and through the other ring. There is historical evidence for option 1. Option 2 would not result in the belt and the leather "locket" being the same width, so I think it is less justified. Both methods would allow the leather of the "locket" to twist, but a flexible attachment like method 1 would likely reduce that.

Speaking of twisting, I think you will get some twisting of the leather with this set up, but you have the same issue with integral belts that are attached in the same or similar manners. I don't think it is anything to worry about. The belt effectively customizes itself to the wearer. If the scabbard and belt are used by a person who is sized significantly differently or with/without armour that impacts size notably, there might be some waviness or pooching from the established twist not matching the new waist circumference, but it would be almost purely cosmetic and would not affect functionality.

[P Ullrich]

Sensible ideas, Greyson, thank you