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Leelund K





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PostPosted: Thu 05 Aug, 2021 8:20 am    Post subject: Re: Albion Axes         Reply with quote

[quote="Jeremy V. Krause"]
Leelund K wrote:
Holger Mahling wrote:
I'm willing to pay the difference, sometimes I'm not. For certain designs, I think the Indian and Chinese options are good enough!


I'll heartily disagree with this. Albion and the chinese and Indian makers are night and day, apples and oranges.


So are their prices.
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PostPosted: Thu 05 Aug, 2021 8:29 am    Post subject: Re: Albion Axes         Reply with quote

[quote="Leelund K"]
Jeremy V. Krause wrote:
Leelund K wrote:
Holger Mahling wrote:
I'm willing to pay the difference, sometimes I'm not. For certain designs, I think the Indian and Chinese options are good enough!


I'll heartily disagree with this. Albion and the chinese and Indian makers are night and day, apples and oranges.


So are their prices.


You get what you pay for. It just depends on what is important to you.

There is a big market for budget level swords.
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PostPosted: Fri 06 Aug, 2021 2:15 am    Post subject: Re: Albion Axes         Reply with quote

Jeremy V. Krause wrote:
Holger Mahling wrote:
Frankly spoken: Why give in $500 for an Albion axe (and i HAVE some Albion stuff - believe it or not), when i can get a very nicely made piece fron, for example, Peter Szabo, for significantly less? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

https://www.szabo-weaponsmith.com/product-page/viking-axe-with-decorated-head-boar

Thats one of mine. Thats still some money at approx. $350 but its not $500 for a pretty plain piece.


The very common issue with many axe makers- even some who make nicely proportioned axes is this tendency to leave a kind of "rugged" or "rough" finish.

It's very common and I'm not sure why it's done but there is no reason for us to think that sees weren't finished brightly, just like swords.

Is that etching on your axe? If so that is ahistorical. I'm not even sure if we have evidence of even inscribed/engraved non-inlayed historical axes.

I suspect that this rough look is a modern aesthetic, and for me, detracts from the piece. People just think it looks cool.

I personally like axes made in bloomery or sheer steels- and I don't care for maker's marks - and this costs quite a bit to have done- but all of my axes are finished brightly.

I think the albion axes look nice and don't seem overpriced.


Sorry. I have been asking a lot around in Europe who is the best/one of the best and historical correct axe maker in Europe. And then i have been told by around 30 or so people from a lot many countries over here: go to Peter Szabo! Which i did. And i am highly satisfied. I dont know your "expert" background, but please forgive me for having more trust/belief in the "expert" opinion of some long time collectors & friends over here. Buy the way i dont really care about "historical". The artwork seems more engraved than etched anyway. Just because there is no archaeological stuff remaining of a certain thing doesnt mean it has never existed. Oh, and Clyde Hollis of Arms & Armor basically said that too; wise man.
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PostPosted: Fri 06 Aug, 2021 7:33 am    Post subject: Re: Albion Axes         Reply with quote

Holger Mahling wrote:


Sorry. I have been asking a lot around in Europe who is the best/one of the best and historical correct axe maker in Europe. And then i have been told by around 30 or so people from a lot many countries over here: go to Peter Szabo! Which i did. And i am highly satisfied. I dont know your "expert" background, but please forgive me for having more trust/belief in the "expert" opinion of some long time collectors & friends over here. Buy the way i dont really care about "historical". The artwork seems more engraved than etched anyway. Just because there is no archaeological stuff remaining of a certain thing doesnt mean it has never existed. Oh, and Clyde Hollis of Arms & Armor basically said that too; wise man.


Well, I'm certainly no "expert" in historical axes- that's for sure! I'm not an expert in much of anything!

I have never handled an historic axe but I have spoken with and handled reproductions of smiths who have handled the real thing. People like Eric Mchugh, James Austin, and Owen Bush.

You say you aren't interested in what may be "historical"- then that places us in different motivations that drive our collecting because that is ALL I'm interested in. I don't do living history. I don't use them. I just buy them and hang them on my wall-.taking them down to experience the handling and say to myself "this is so cool! It feels and looks very close to what someone would have carried 1000 years ago."

I prefer to take a more conservative approach regarding the relationship between historical examples and modern reproductions- I take this route in all of my purchases and commissions.. Sometimes we have to make guesses on decorations and certain features, but IMO we should avoid that whenever possible and draw from what history has left us. I like to have reproductions with less of an "artistic vision" of an axe but more a straight copy, or close to, copy of a historical example or family of originals. Forging itself can make an exact copy difficult.

I PERSONALLY believe that the "rough n' ready" aesthetic taken on axe reproductions is not a representation of how they would have been finished in period. Ultimately, that is just a guess because corrosion has made the final finish difficult to see.
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PostPosted: Thu 16 Sep, 2021 5:24 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Just a bump… anybody get one of these axes yet?

I would love to see a short video showing one but the internet is coming up empty.
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PostPosted: Mon 27 Sep, 2021 1:52 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Jeremy V. Krause wrote:
Just a bump… anybody get one of these axes yet?

I would love to see a short video showing one but the internet is coming up empty.


Here are a couple of pics of mine. And one with them together with other axes for scale.



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PostPosted: Mon 27 Sep, 2021 4:05 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Greg E wrote:
Jeremy V. Krause wrote:
Just a bump… anybody get one of these axes yet?

I would love to see a short video showing one but the internet is coming up empty.


Here are a couple of pics of mine. And one with them together with other axes for scale.


Thanks for the pics Greg,

Those Albion axes are pretty handsome and go well with the rest of your axes.

I really like the finishes on the Albions- they have some character- not too neat and “pristine”.

If I’m not mistaken Albion already has, or is going to unveil a full large Dane axe as well.

Thanks again!
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