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PostPosted: Sun 22 Aug, 2021 5:56 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

"Embarrassing" is a good word. "Pathetic" is another.
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PostPosted: Tue 31 Aug, 2021 7:23 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

A Viking period langsax was recently uncovered in Poland. Unlike the recent mail find, this one actually looks its age.

https://scienceinpoland.pap.pl/en/news/news%2C88972%2Crare-scandinavian-combat-knife-found-poland.html
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PostPosted: Mon 06 Sep, 2021 6:48 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

If you haven't already seen this one it's well worth a look. A Viking period seax with an intact carved handle posted by scholagladiatoria. It's beautiful! See the video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Khsxb_wezQ
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PostPosted: Tue 07 Sep, 2021 1:28 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

That seax grip is GREAT!!! Amazing that it survived so well. Also really cool to see the shape and carving on it. Tremendous!
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PostPosted: Tue 07 Sep, 2021 2:44 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

I know what 90% of sax grips are about to look like. Happy But seriously, it’s a cool find.
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PostPosted: Wed 08 Sep, 2021 1:20 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Chad Arnow wrote:
I know what 90% of sax grips are about to look like. Happy But seriously, it’s a cool find.


You got that right Laughing Out Loud . This find will change the shape of seax reproductions from now on I imagine.
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PostPosted: Tue 14 Sep, 2021 4:08 am    Post subject: I thought the same thing         Reply with quote

Chad Arnow wrote:
I know what 90% of sax grips are about to look like. Happy But seriously, it’s a cool find.


Ha, I thought the same thing Chad. Its one of the elements of studying these things that appeals to me. The way a new find stretches what we think could happen at any given time. It also illustrates how important the context of the find is. Humans have been coming up with knife designs for almost their entire materials working experience. Its tough to come up with something new. Here is another example from the Secrets of the Ice group. Little context but possibly early enough to mess with some folks ideas about what is "period " for construction styles.

Knife in the glacier
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PostPosted: Tue 14 Sep, 2021 4:12 am    Post subject: Gold Hoard in Denmark         Reply with quote

Pretty amazing gold hoard found in Denmark. Of course guy who found it had just started detecting. Seems to be the case so often. I wonder if its the fact they start where they are able close to them as opposed to trying to find a spot that seems to be important, so they look where others say nah nothing going to be there.
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PostPosted: Sun 19 Sep, 2021 12:05 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Gallowglass helmet found in the river Shannon, Ireland:

https://www.offalyexpress.ie/news/home/639011/offaly-divers-discover-helmet-which-belonged-to-irish-samurai.html
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PostPosted: Sun 19 Sep, 2021 12:16 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Why comparing Gallowglass to samurai? We have a whole warrior class here in Europe that most people in this hemisphere are much more familiar with, knights. And if they wanted to focus on the mercenary part, the term samurai doesn't really cover that. Big Grin

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PostPosted: Tue 19 Oct, 2021 1:16 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

An interesting find, though some of the comments by the archaeologists are a bit dubious (no Islamic fleets in the Crusades? I think not)

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/diver-finds-crusader-sword-off-israels-coast-180978884/

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PostPosted: Tue 02 Nov, 2021 3:47 am    Post subject: Roman battlefield found in Switzerland         Reply with quote

This is a nice find and the dagger looks quite nice. The survival is quite amazing if it was material left on the surface. Let's hope the University can get the funding to follow up the finds with a dig and conservation of the finds.

Roman Battlefield in Switzerland
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PostPosted: Wed 03 Nov, 2021 1:33 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

That's a good one.

A lot more impressive than the "Crusader sword" covered in barnacles.
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PostPosted: Wed 03 Nov, 2021 3:15 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Jeremy V. Krause wrote:
That's a good one.

A lot more impressive than the "Crusader sword" covered in barnacles.


Conservation helps, of course Happy

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PostPosted: Wed 03 Nov, 2021 7:04 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Anthony Clipsom wrote:
Jeremy V. Krause wrote:
That's a good one.

A lot more impressive than the "Crusader sword" covered in barnacles.


Conservation helps, of course Happy


Exactly - give them a chance to clean off several centuries of encrustation before passing final judgement on the sword! I for one am very curious to see what comes out. My money is that it will turn out to be a Euro sword from that time period, though only time will tell.
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PostPosted: Thu 09 Dec, 2021 1:04 pm    Post subject: Viking Sword from Orkney find         Reply with quote

This piece shows a very nice pattern on the hilt in the xray. Sadly they mention how heavy it must be.

Orkney Sword - BBC
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PostPosted: Tue 24 May, 2022 10:11 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Probably the end of the Longford hauberk story:

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It found manganese levels in the artifact were characteristic of 19th century steel manufacture, while the rings and tailoring of the garment were not consistent with medieval mail armour making.

They believe the Hauberk to be a replica from the mid 19th century onward.



https://www.shannonside.ie/news/museum-dispute-origin-of-medieval-chain-mail-found-in-longford-198530
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PostPosted: Sat 17 Jun, 2023 12:45 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

ZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzZZZZZZZZZZZ...............snork..... Wake Up!


I think I want it.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/jun/16/till-shines-3300-year-old-sword-found-in-germany-bronze-age-grave-bavaria

Video https://apnews.com/article/germany-bronze-age-sword-found-cb2070fdd128a40ee3f8e3421e80356b
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PostPosted: Sat 17 Jun, 2023 5:22 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

I'm very suspicious of the authenticity of that German sword due to the lack of a crust of blue/green patina on the bronze on an allegedly 1400BC-1300BC artifact. Greek bronze statues and armor from much later in time 600BC to 300BC are always covered in a thick patina when first excavated. Also, doesn't that German sword's design and hilt look like something out of a BUDK catalog or Conan the barbarian film? I have not seen any swords from any ancient cultures (Mycenaean, Egyptian, Mesopotaminan, Chinese) that look similar.
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PostPosted: Sun 18 Jun, 2023 7:41 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Well, the grave looks genuine enough, so we'd have to suggest the Bavarian State Archaeology team inserted a prepared fake or that someone snuck in and planted it and they didn't notice the disturbance during excavation. Not impossible but perhaps unlikely?
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