Posts: 1,191 Location: San Francisco, CA
Mon 21 Feb, 2005 3:53 pm
| Joachim Nilsson wrote: |
| Benjamin McCracken wrote: | The limits do add some pressure to those of us who have been sitting on the fence. I doubt this is entirely a coincidence. To send everyone into a complete frenzy Albion could put a counter on each page to show how many are left. Now that would be evil. I think I have to agree with Gary that this does increase the chance for more options more quickly. That is a good thing. I do also like the idea that some of their products could increase in value after they are no longer available.
Ben McCracken |
Yeah. In all likelihood I'm just being whiney and slightly obnoxious just because I up till now though I could sit on my lazy a*s and quietly and slowly save up money and buy the swords at a very slow pace. This puts a little more pressure on my economic handling abilities. :) :) |
That is how I felt. I think that when a model runs out (let us say Type XVIII) they will introduce a different Type XVIII. Since I am quite flexible regarding hilt components, I will just buy the one the is available at the time I have the money ready.
Alexi
Posts: 1,191 Location: San Francisco, CA
Mon 21 Feb, 2005 4:13 pm
On the explanation page at Albion it said that once there are only 10 left of any model it will be announced on the particular model's page.
The museum line swords are not limited edition, which is a good thing since I will need a while to get enough money for the Solingen and Tritonia......Good thing that the Svante is too late for my period of interest
Alexi
Posts: 1,244 Location: New Glarus, WI
Mon 21 Feb, 2005 4:15 pm
| Alexi Goranov wrote: |
On the explanation page at Albion it said that once there are only 10 left of any model it will be announced on the particular model's page.
The museum line swords are not limited edition, which is a good thing since I will need a while to get enough money for the Solingen and Tritonia......Good thing that the Svante is too late for my period of interest
Alexi |
Sorry to say, brother, but yes, they are. 1000 each.
Posts: 1,812 Location: Washington DC metro area, USA
Mon 21 Feb, 2005 4:18 pm
Limited Production Quantities
I agree that it is a good idea for Albion to limit the production quantities for individual models. It is good, both for them, and their customer base, to increase the exclusivity of their product. If the demand for a particular model outstrips the production limit, well, that increases resale value of that piece. And Albion can always develop a new model that is similar, but with enough differences to make it a unique piece, in order to satisfy those who missed out with the first model. Of course, when looking at the numbers of members here at myArmoury.com (and also those at SwordForum), we must also recognize that there is a limited market for a high-end product like Albion makes. So, the limited edition quantities may not be that significant of an issue.
Posts: 1,191 Location: San Francisco, CA
Mon 21 Feb, 2005 4:21 pm
| Aaron Schnatterly wrote: |
Sorry to say, brother, but yes, they are. 1000 each. |
Nooooooo. That was added today. Yesterday, the Baron did not have a "limited edition" announcement, nor the museum line swords. Now they all do.........................Oh well, if push comes to shove, there are the always the trusty credit cards.
Alexi
Posts: 1,244 Location: New Glarus, WI
Mon 21 Feb, 2005 4:34 pm
Re: Limited Production Quantities
| Joachim Nilsson wrote: |
| Steve Grisetti wrote: | | Of course, when looking at the numbers of members here at myArmoury.com (and also those at SwordForum), we must also recognize that there is a limited market for a high-end product like Albion makes. So, the limited edition quantities may not be that significant of an issue. |
Which is a point that's is both very true as well as something I didn't calculate into the equation. :blush: |
Yup. Another point to consider... I'm 1 collector. Just me. Albion currently has over 60 different swords available. I would love to have all of them, and would if someone would just hand over that winning lottery ticket. Bottom line is, even if I bought 1 a month until I had them all, it'd take me a full 5 years. :eek: Yeah, that's IF I could afford to do that. I don't think they'll just evaporate like I think we all feared at the first moment we knew about the limited editions.
One other thing to think about... of the models that are out there, 16 (if I counted correctly) have a limit of 100. The Vinland is one of those. The Baron, on the other hand, has a limit of 1000. If the Baron is 10 times as popular as the Vinland, they will phase out at the same time. If the Baron sells 20 to 1 of the Vinland, it'll be long gone before the Vinland. Supply and demand, folks! Don't base availability or urgency on 100 vs. 500 vs. 1000. Focus on the pieces you want the most.
Posts: 510
Mon 21 Feb, 2005 4:41 pm
Re: Limited Production Quantities
| Aaron Schnatterly wrote: |
Yup. Another point to consider... I'm 1 collector. Just me. Albion currently has over 60 different swords available. I would love to have all of them, and would if someone would just hand over that winning lottery ticket. Bottom line is, even if I bought 1 a month until I had them all, it'd take me a full 5 years. :eek: Yeah, that's IF I could afford to do that. I don't think they'll just evaporate like I think we all feared at the first moment we knew about the limited editions.
One other thing to think about... of the models that are out there, 16 (if I counted correctly) have a limit of 100. The Vinland is one of those. The Baron, on the other hand, has a limit of 1000. If the Baron is 10 times as popular as the Vinland, they will phase out at the same time. If the Baron sells 20 to 1 of the Vinland, it'll be long gone before the Vinland. Supply and demand, folks! Don't base availability or urgency on 100 vs. 500 vs. 1000. Focus on the pieces you want the most. |
Yes, of course. I think my initial reaction was based on myself and on how I know I would act if I had more than decent amounts of money in my pockets: Buy, buy, buy, buy! I guess I in my short-sightedness figured that would go for everyone else too. But seriously: Some collectors, the ones that can afford to purchase maybe three or four swords at once -they scare me. :) And this is not a stab nor a personal attack on anyone. I'm just slightly jealous of your abilities to endulge in you sword collecting hobbies. :)
But when I win the lottery: You guys better watch out! ;) Which, in all probability, means that you can relax since I've thus far never won any substancial amounts of money. But here's to hope, right?
On second thought: The limited edition is a cool thing. A really cool thing. I know how proud I am of my Peter Johnsson hafted sword. And that's one of a kind. To my knowledge there isn't another one in existance. Can't get much more unique than that.
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Posts: 1,812 Location: Washington DC metro area, USA
Mon 21 Feb, 2005 4:51 pm
Re: Limited Production Quantities
| Aaron Schnatterly wrote: |
Don't base availability or urgency on 100 vs. 500 vs. 1000. Focus on the pieces you want the most. |
Absolutely!
Another point that I should make is that I really don't think that the good folks at Albion are trying to create mass hysteria out here. I believe that they have taken a good look at the market that is out here, and set their production targets accordingly. And the "new, slightly different model" approach provides Albion with the flexibility to adapt in the event of a miscalculation of the market demand. Though, I am sure that market miscalculations only happen in my industry :lol:.
Posts: 3,646 Location: Midwest
Mon 21 Feb, 2005 9:00 pm
No need to worry I think.
I'm sure they will come up from time to time in the marketplace even if a much loved model sells out.
Posts: 206 Location: The Netherlands
Tue 22 Feb, 2005 3:20 am
Celtic next gen...?
Hello I am not an Roman fan (Hey i like the Celt's most so I look at the Romans as an enemy ;) )but I must say that I realy like the looks of this "Decurio Spatha sword"
I can't wait to see the first pictures of the real thing, especialy the blade!!
Is there a picture of that blade yet???
I quess this blade would be an good basis for an next gen. Celtic late la Tene sword isn't it??
Is there any change of purcesing this blade seperatly without the hilt???
And are there pictures (on the internet) of the "real" sword that this creation is based up on??
Posts: 559 Location: Stillwater N.J.
Tue 22 Feb, 2005 6:16 am
| Joachim Nilsson wrote: |
| I will most definately try to do the same thing. I just hope I'll get my hands on a Talhoffer before they disappear (which they, in all probability won't do). I fell in love with that design the first time I saw it. Just as I fell in love with the Svante the first time I handled it. |
Hey, one of those Talhoffers are mine so you'd better get your order in soon :lol:
As far as the Svante, well that's just a dream I have :(
Posts: 4,393 Location: Northern California
Tue 22 Feb, 2005 7:50 am
On a different note, the winners of the latest naming contest ( for the 2 German Bastards, the Danish 2-hander, and the Irish bastard) should be announced soon. How many of you participated? I came up with around 4 entries.
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