Posts: 4 Location: Lucija
Wed 25 Sep, 2019 5:04 am
Help identify 19th century sabre
Hi.
Can anyone help me in identifying this (in my opinion unusual) M 1861 sabre.
Thanks.
Rok
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Posts: 53 Location: Utah
Wed 25 Sep, 2019 10:15 am
To me, that doesn't look like a 1861 sabre but a British 18th century or early 19th century sabre. However I'm a bit hazy on my details of British swords. Where did you buy this sword from? And what are the markings on the blade?
Posts: 170 Location: Michigan
Wed 25 Sep, 2019 7:01 pm
Any images of the blade or any markings? What is the handle material?
Posts: 134 Location: California
Wed 25 Sep, 2019 9:16 pm
Definitely not British, or at least not any "native" British style
What's the mark on the blade say? Usually a brass B guard is Bavarian, infantry I believe, but this guard is lacking some of the details I would expect to see on any original sabre of this style, like the rolled quillon. Is there any etching on the blade?
I have seen reference to Austrian police sabres having brass hilts. But I would hesitate before definitely calling it one or the other.
Posts: 4 Location: Lucija
Fri 27 Sep, 2019 3:51 am
The mark on the blade is Weyersberg Kirschbaum & Co Solingen.
I agree that the rolled quillon is missing. That is why I placed this question on the forum.
I am almost sure, that this is an Austrian sabre, but not military. Police/gendarmerie maybe.
Rok
Posts: 134 Location: California
Fri 27 Sep, 2019 8:06 am
Yeah, here is a photo of the brass hilted police sword. Seems to match up.
Do you plan on restoring the piece?
http://www.swordforum.com/vb4/attachment.php?...1253718773
Posts: 4 Location: Lucija
Wed 09 Oct, 2019 11:06 pm
Thank you all for the answers. And the photo.
Still, there is a rolled quillon missing.
Rok
Posts: 1,978 Location: Nipmuc USA
Thu 10 Oct, 2019 5:30 pm
Most likely for Austria and likely either an m1961 infantry or m1907 but you don't show the entire sword, nor mention dimension. The WKC puts it after the early 1880s. Does it bear both the crowned king and knight's bust or just the knights bust.? The quillon may have been trimmed.
Cheers
GC
Posts: 4 Location: Lucija
Thu 17 Oct, 2019 4:53 am
The markings on the blade are not visible well.
There is also a sign Feller (Fehler?) et Co Wien.
There is a crown and something next to the crown. So I am guessing, that there are both crowned king and knight's bust.
The blade's length is 75 cm.
Thanks for your help.
Rok
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