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PostPosted: Thu 06 Jun, 2019 9:31 pm    Post subject: Antler Masks         Reply with quote

Wow Roger,

Those are iconic, the visual of the mask is quite striking. The look is almost like something from a movie or TV show (Robinhoood) . These really create a powerful visual and one can easily imagine how intense the image must have been fo rthe people of that day.

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PostPosted: Fri 05 Jul, 2019 2:13 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

A bad ass barbuta and a bascinet from the Aragonese castle of Monreal de Ariza:

https://www.facebook.com/ipcepatrimonio/posts/2283288751726195

That shape is... sexy Eek!
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PostPosted: Fri 05 Jul, 2019 6:01 am    Post subject: Very nice find         Reply with quote

Iagoba Ferreira wrote:
A bad ass barbuta and a bascinet from the Aragonese castle of Monreal de Ariza:

https://www.facebook.com/ipcepatrimonio/posts/2283288751726195

That shape is... sexy Eek!


These look very interesting. The Great Bascinet especially will be interesting as they are pretty rare as far as surviving pieces. Hopefully they are able to conserve as much as possible. Looks like they have a lot of corrosion.

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PostPosted: Fri 05 Jul, 2019 6:09 am    Post subject: 2 New Boat Graves - Uppsala         Reply with quote

Two new graves excavated last month in Uppsala area. Look very good as far as detail and they state probably not disturbed. Long list of items found.

Uppsala Grave Finds

Would love to see the items once cleaned up.

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PostPosted: Sun 07 Jul, 2019 10:35 am    Post subject: Re: Very nice find         Reply with quote

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Iagoba Ferreira wrote:


These look very interesting. The Great Bascinet especially will be interesting as they are pretty rare as far as surviving pieces. Hopefully they are able to conserve as much as possible. Looks like they have a lot of corrosion.

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I knew just two from the Peninsula, the one from Pamplona, and another excavated from Portugal.

The barbute is more exceptional, unique piece, I even had my doubts about their use in Iberia due to the lack of mentions in sources or depictions...
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PostPosted: Thu 25 Jul, 2019 3:54 pm    Post subject: Interesting Danish Grave find         Reply with quote

Here is an interesting result of testing on a woman found with an axe in a Danish Medieval cemetery. She and the axe are Slavic. Not a surprise to see the cross cultural society as this was a culture of travel and trade but interesting. Axe looks to be a tool.

Salvic Woman in Danish Grave

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PostPosted: Thu 25 Jul, 2019 7:27 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Really neat find. This is going to be a big hit with some re-enactor groups in Poland I think...
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PostPosted: Thu 15 Aug, 2019 2:32 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Not weapon related, but very cool - the remains of a box at Pompeii containing a multitude of small ritual objects. https://www.thedailybeast.com/pompeiis-latest-find-tiny-penises-and-seduction-charms?fbclid=IwAR37UobAfRZDyYgJuBmHNh378bc9hMQjKUXVDffYZ_qNNEuDA62r1GxPiMA
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PostPosted: Thu 05 Sep, 2019 7:41 am    Post subject: Re: Interesting Danish Grave find         Reply with quote

Craig Johnson wrote:
Here is an interesting result of testing on a woman found with an axe in a Danish Medieval cemetery. She and the axe are Slavic. Not a surprise to see the cross cultural society as this was a culture of travel and trade but interesting. Axe looks to be a tool.

Salvic Woman in Danish Grave

Craig


The grave from Langeland, while initially described in a research paper as a woman in the 1990's, further examination at Copenhagen University deemed the sex of the person as uncertain, though this result wasn't published in a research paper!
They have known since the beginning that is was a "baltic" type axe.
According to this Danish article containing interview with Otto Uldum of Langelands Museum.
Source: https://www.kristeligt-dagblad.dk/danmark/nutidens-koenskamp-traekkes-ned-over-vikingetiden
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PostPosted: Thu 05 Sep, 2019 8:04 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

"Nordic Bronze Age" was the result of Corded Ware immigration (?invasion?) [ultimately of Yamnaya origins with some admixture of Neolithic groups on their way westwards] around 1600 BC..
A Danish study based on carbon-14 and strontium on 88 skeletons from the neolithic and the bronze age.


Excerpt from their introduction:
"From 1600 BC onwards, southern Scandinavia became more closely linked to the existing European metal trade networks [4], and from 1500 BC onwards, a period of unparalleled creativity resulted in the formation of a Nordic Bronze Age style, based on stylistic influences from Mycenean and central European workshops [5]. This signaled the beginning of a period of unprecedented burial wealth between 1500–1100 BC when c. 50.000 barrows were constructed in present-day Denmark alone [6]. More than 2000 swords are known from excavated burials, and as they constitute around 10% of the total number of burials, this suggests that a much larger number of swords could have been deposited [7]. There are more Bronze Age swords in present-day Denmark than anywhere else in Europe [8]. During this period, Denmark became Europe’s richest region with respect to number and density of metal depositions [9, 10]. However, this regional development was entirely dependent on the functioning of the long-distance metal trade as revealed by studies on the potential origin of copper [11, 12]. There are no native base metal ores in present-day Denmark. Additionally, recent investigations suggest that wool, too, was traded during the Nordic Bronze Age [13], and that a number of glass beads found as grave goods came from as far away as Mesopotamia and Egypt [14]."
Source: "Mapping human mobility during the third and second millennia BC in present-day Denmark."
Authors: Karin Margarita Frei, Sophie Bergerbrant, Karl-Göran Sjögren, Marie Louise Jørkov, Niels Lynnerup, Lise Harvig, Morten E. Allentoft ,Martin Sikora, T. Douglas Price, Robert Frei, Kristian Kristiansen
Published: August 21, 2019
https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0219850


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PostPosted: Thu 05 Sep, 2019 4:21 pm    Post subject: Thank you Niels         Reply with quote

Great Info Niels. Thank you for the site and info. Very much looking forward to reading this and looking at the findings in more depth.

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PostPosted: Sun 15 Sep, 2019 5:53 am    Post subject: Re: Thank you Niels         Reply with quote

Craig Johnson wrote:
Great Info Niels. Thank you for the site and info. Very much looking forward to reading this and looking at the findings in more depth.

Craig


Hi Craig.

Can't remember if I have posted this already, but here is it again for those who missed it, and for those with an interest in bronze age swords.

The Volume 1 [Text and catalog] "Älterbronzezeitliche Vollgriffschwerter in Dänemark und Schleswig-Holstein. Studien zu Form, Verzierung, Technik und Funktion" is now at academia.edu!
Source: https://www.academia.edu/29789389/%C3%84lterbronzezeitliche_Vollgriffschwerter_in_D%C3%A4nemark_und_Schleswig-Holstein._Studien_zu_Form_Verzierung_Technik_und_Funktion

Volume 2 should be the "Listen, Karten und Tafeln" and he has a link to that as well.
See: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/xb8xdij7qq5f108/AAC0mCgm23abK7oB_msbvCbva?dl=0

Jan-Heinrich Bunnefeld also have this article in english [including pictures, scans and ornamentation typology]:
"Crafting Swords. The emergence and production of full-hilted swords in the Early Nordic Bronze Age."
Source: https://www.academia.edu/30182036/Crafting_Swords._The_emergence_and_production_of_full-hilted_swords_in_the_Early_Nordic_Bronze_Age
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PostPosted: Tue 17 Sep, 2019 8:12 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

What seem to be 11 French heavy cavalry straight sabers from early XIXth century, underwater near Balearic islands.Video with nice views on unrestored 3 of them:
https://elpais.com/cultura/2019/09/16/actualidad/1568653015_868695.html?fbclid=IwAR3rlBTIaZ_5y85fHRlyT3CMnMe5Vfn0SKhbbcaEvIcjFr8VHVCXi_Jetbw

EDIT (23rd September):

Two more articles, with more photos and videos.

https://www.diariodeibiza.es/cultura/2019/09/18/11-espadas-traves-rayos-x/1092320.html?fbclid=IwAR1uRhmCpDKp8-Uho_CkwFFzSjDxtFzeTMzdJj1fbXGY3WbpHM0bxn_mB38

https://www.diariodeibiza.es/cultura/2019/09/21/espadas-waterloo-calo/1092982.html?fbclid=IwAR26dbZeoe4et5d_8-OI5uO-3DAI8Fqde1M5Ojc1ExY2ZrAoLdjiaPPY7iE


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PostPosted: Fri 20 Sep, 2019 6:21 am    Post subject: Couple of items I have seen pop up         Reply with quote

Hill fort round house found but erosion threatens. Dinas Dinle

Bronze Age Talaiotic Sword found on Majorca Bronze broken Sword
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PostPosted: Tue 15 Oct, 2019 8:17 am    Post subject: Pictish Stone Details         Reply with quote

Very cool find with new detail just released on a standing stone decoration in Scotland. Pictish art is one of my favorite bits of history.

BBC Pictish Stone Beasts

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PostPosted: Thu 17 Oct, 2019 12:19 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

That is really wild, Craig. The two 'beasts' on top look more Aztec or Mayan than Pict. Kinda raises some questions. WTF?!
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PostPosted: Wed 23 Oct, 2019 3:36 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Another discovery at Pompeii, but not the one the authors think. These people found traces of iron in the road paving and came to the absurd conclusion that the Romans must have repaired their roads with molten iron.

https://www.jstor.org/stable/10.3764/aja.123.2.0237?seq=1#page_scan_tab_contents
https://www.ancient-origins.net/news-history-archaeology/roman-roads-0011920

What this discovery really tells us is that the Romans used slag from iron smelters as road-base. The Roman iron industry produced millions of tons of slag and they were constantly trying to find ways to dispose of it. Crushing it up and adding it to road-base makes a lot of sense. It also suggests that Pompeii may have had an iron smelter nearby because the materials for road-base were usually locally-sourced.

Ancient smelters were only 80-90% efficient so 10-20% of the original iron content still remains after the smelt. It depends on the quality of the ore. If the ore contains 30% iron and the smelter is 90% efficient then the resultant slag will consist of 3% iron.* This is the "iron droplets, spatters, and stains" that the observers found in the road. The authors of the above article should have consulted an archaeo-metallurgist before writing that nonsense about molten iron.

* 30% x 10% (100-90) = 3%

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PostPosted: Wed 23 Oct, 2019 5:12 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Dan,

As Solomon once said, "there is nothing new under the sun."

...Or, he at least said something similar.

In Northwest Indiana, there were (and still are) a lot of steel mills. That slag also finds its way into roads as an aggregate. Our driveway was in fact paved with slag. Looks and acts just like gravel...
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PostPosted: Mon 28 Oct, 2019 12:27 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Extremely well preserved roman glass found in Denmark (from a grave at Vårst) dated to ~ 300 AD.
- that is really a beautiful piece speculated to have been produced in a glass-workshop in the Rhine area or Gallia.
Source: https://www.tv2nord.dk/artikel/nyt-fund-i-arkaeologisk-skattekammer-det-er-noget-enestaaende

This area contains a Iron age village with ~ 400 houses from the period 500 BC to 500 AD.
The village from 200-500 AD had a cemetery with 80 graves researched so far.
Source (Danish): https://nordmus.dk/sydskandinaviens-stoerste-400-jernalderhuse-fundet-i-sdr-tranders/
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PostPosted: Mon 28 Oct, 2019 5:47 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Dan Howard wrote:
Another discovery at Pompeii, but not the one the authors think. These people found traces of iron in the road paving and came to the absurd conclusion that the Romans must have repaired their roads with molten iron.

https://www.jstor.org/stable/10.3764/aja.123.2.0237?seq=1#page_scan_tab_contents
https://www.ancient-origins.net/news-history-archaeology/roman-roads-0011920

What this discovery really tells us is that the Romans used slag from iron smelters as road-base. The Roman iron industry produced millions of tons of slag and they were constantly trying to find ways to dispose of it. Crushing it up and adding it to road-base makes a lot of sense. It also suggests that Pompeii may have had an iron smelter nearby because the materials for road-base were usually locally-sourced.

Ancient smelters were only 80-90% efficient so 10-20% of the original iron content still remains after the smelt. It depends on the quality of the ore. If the ore contains 30% iron and the smelter is 90% efficient then the resultant slag will consist of 3% iron.* This is the "iron droplets, spatters, and stains" that the observers found in the road. The authors of the above article should have consulted an archaeo-metallurgist before writing that nonsense about molten iron.

* 30% x 10% (100-90) = 3%


Excellent points Dan,

It is pretty sobering to realize that the proposed idea made it through the review process and out into academic literature...

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