I would love to see a brazil nut Squire Line sword, maybe a budget of the Gaddjhalt or Reeve, one to take the place of the Del Tin Maurice.

How about a Squire Line version of the Svante?? :lol: :lol:

I hate to say this guys but don't count on a Svante in the Squire Line. I don't know where we would cut corners in order to do it and this is one piece that just should not have corners cut. It is way to beautiful of a piece to "cheapin" it.

Sorry to disappoint you guys.

Edit - Peter must have posted at the same time I did. :/

:cry: I so wanted a beater that handles and behaves like the Svante. I must now break the news to Svante that he won't have a little brother to beat on. He will be so sad. :cry:

Peter Said - "As I see a large interest in using the Squire Line swords in sparring, I personally think it is a good idea to include some swords that are specially constructed for that purpose. The SqL line as it now stands are made up of general purpose entry level swords. They can abosutely be used for sparring, but a sword built from the ground up for that purpose is another matter completely. You could not it as a dress sword, nor would it be a good candidate to meet the visual satisfaction of a collection piece, but it would shine in sparring...
What I´d like to see is a historically accurate traning sword for the long sword techniques. A weapon as seen in many of the manuals."

I think this is a much better direction to take the squires than to just trying to copy anything in the other product lines. In fact I think copying anything out of the other lines poses the very real risk of canabalizing the sales of higher margin products. For that reason alone, I would not go there if I was in Albion's shoes.

But then again, I'm not.

Regardless, I really look forward to seeing what the possible training tools end up being. I think steel "training tool/sparring tool" is an underserved market that Albion can do well in.

At least I hope so because it seems like there are very few good options out there.

Joe F said:
...I think this is a much better direction to take the squires than to just trying to copy anything in the other product lines. In fact I think copying anything out of the other lines poses the very real risk of canabalizing the sales of higher margin products. For that reason alone, I would not go there if I was in Albion's shoes.


That is very true: The Squire Line is *not* a cheap version of the Next Gen Line, even though the two lines share some basic principles for construction, heat treat and so on.
Next Gen swords are not going to be made into SqL models. Some blade blanks can be reused/tweaked for SqL use, but I do not think this is going to be the normal procedure.

Rather it can be a situation when some SqL models are elevated into NG status, being given a higher finish and the full blade treatment. This is not going to be common either, but it might happen some times.

I am awfully sorry, folks. :blush: When I suggested a Squire Line version of the Svante, this was with tongue firmly planted in cheek. :blush: I would suspect that attempting to simplify the Svante in such a way would yield something that would not look like the Svante at all, except perhaps in the gross proportions, e.g., length of grip vs length of blade.

Peter has been working on a new line of swords spoecifically designed for sparring, which we will be introducing soon. The Squire line was really intended to be an "entry level" sword with traditional construction, suitable for reenactment but not really a sparring/training weapon.

These new swords will have around a 2mm blunt edge, will be attractive, functional (not suitable for sharpening, however) and built tough.

We are still discussing a name for this new line, but it will be priced around the Squire line pricing and will address some of the issues around sparring that the Squire line does not..

Best,

Howy

When this line is eventually introduced, a Fechtbuch sword would be nice to see, like in Meyer. Maybe a long sword and a short sword.

David Kite
ARMA in IN