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Ryan Hobbs





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PostPosted: Tue 05 Jun, 2018 6:20 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Sean Manning wrote:

Making or commissioning nice reproductions of late 14th/early 15th century men's clothing is not something to undertake lightly. That said, here are some things to get you started.

Books and Articles
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Stella Mary Newton, Fashion in the Age of the Black Prince
Adrien Harmand, Jeanne d'Arc (1929) http://lerozier.free.fr/harmand.htm {yes, it is in French}
Maurice Leloir, "A Mediaeval doublet," Apollo: The International Magazine of the Arts Vol. 23 No. 135 (March 1936) pp. 157-160 {the good thing about this is that it is by a French scholar but in English, it also has a different pattern than Harmand's}
Tasha Kelly's modern pattern for the Charles de Blois
Jessica Finley's scholarly article on the Luebeck jacks
Tasha Kelly's scholarly article on the Charles VI coat

Sources
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Late Fourteenth Century Arming Garments I: Caps http://forums.armourarchive.org/phpBB3/viewto...p;t=157815
Late Fourteenth Century Arming Garments II: The Upper Body http://forums.armourarchive.org/phpBB3/viewto...p;t=158477
Late Fourteenth Century Arming Garments III: The Legs http://forums.armourarchive.org/phpBB3/viewto...o#p2572643
Sir John Smythe on Arming Garments http://forums.armourarchive.org/phpBB3/viewto...p;t=182287
Avoiding the 'Diaper' Look http://forums.armourarchive.org/phpBB3/viewto...p;t=164027
How Heavy were Doublets and Pourpoints? https://bookandsword.com/resources/fashion-in-the-age-of-datini/how-heavy-were-doublets-and-pourpoints/

Tasha Kelly, La Cotte Simple http://cottesimple.com/articles/
Jessica Finley has some posts and videos on her YouTube page, Fühlen Designs https://www.facebook.com/fuhlendesigns

Bertus Brocamp's Lendenier theory:
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Ian Laspina, The Arming Girdle (Lendenier) with Commentary http://knyghterrant.com/index.php/2016/04/06/...ommentary/
Robert Macpherson, Dusting off the Cobwebs pages 68, 69, and 72 http://forums.armourarchive.org/phpBB3/viewto...start=2345



Wow, that will keep me busy for a while!!! I clearly underestimated how much went into the soft kit. Truly, thank you for all the sources, I really do appreciate the time that everyone has been putting into providing sources and links! I feel more comfortable now doing the soft kit myself.

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Ryan Hobbs





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PostPosted: Tue 05 Jun, 2018 6:43 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Ian S LaSpina wrote:

Well, you'll be an O-3 by the time you have your armor anyway, so you'll be just fine! Happy


haha, true! I have to make it to at least one unit Halloween party in a full harness!


Ian S LaSpina wrote:
There are also plenty of good armorers out there who excel at virtually every component, and going to a single person like that might ensure an even quality and stylistic cohesiveness throughout the entire harness.

Pour through the sources Sean listed above too. If you're going to do this right, do it right on every layer. It sounds intimidating, and it is a lot of work (and money), but I promise you that it will be very rewarding; not only when you're standing there in your completed harness but the entire process.


Ahhhh, thanks for that! I had only been considering the mechanical problems that could be produced my different manufacturers. I hadn't considered how every craftsmen has their own style and "look". Thanks! And yes, I'm finding out this will take more effort than I previously thought. But, I've wanted armor since I was a kid, and I love being able to get a glimpse at what combat would have been like for men in the past.

After the soft kit is complete, is there any piece of armor that should be ordered first? I was thinking perhaps the torso armor; all other major components of the harness have to interface with it. Have other people used and liked a different method?

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