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Jeff Pringle
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PostPosted: Wed 07 Dec, 2005 10:37 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Those are Viking noise makers, you suspend them from your horse's trappings and they do the jingle-jangle that spurs do nowadays...
Hmm, spurs were last century...think of them as primitive I-pods.
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PostPosted: Thu 08 Dec, 2005 5:14 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

They are tought to be noicemakers. Noone knows for sure what or how they wehere used.
But they go trough a pretty well charted development through the years.
They are included because they can be used to help date grave finds. So, typically Pettersen will list a a find "This sword was found at X, with a type M spear, a Type C axe, and a noice maker of the C type."

Regardless, I WANT ONE!

"this [fight] looks curious, almost like a game. See, they are looking around them before they fall, to find a dry spot to fall on, or they are falling on their shields. Can you see blood on their cloths and weapons? No. This must be trickery."
-Reidar Sendeman, from King Sverre's Saga, 1201
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PostPosted: Thu 08 Dec, 2005 7:21 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Thanks for the info. I had no idea. Taking a second glance they do look rather noisy.
" You little fool who wanted to be the best, see what happened." -MS 3227a
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PostPosted: Sun 11 Dec, 2005 1:56 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Big Grin My english wordbook are still smoking and my grama sucks, butt anyway here are that Forord from the book,
yeah, i know its need allot of edit to, so its free to do that to, Big Grin

Cool Prince Haakon! Big Grin
Please! don't kick in my door, because of this beating up yours National Treasure of Norway, i did my best Big Grin

R.I.P Jan Petersen Happy


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FORORD page1

It's are now 7 years seen's i started this work over vikingage's
sword. Spring 1912 made i mine first record's and sketch's of viking-
ageswords in University's Oldsaksamling without still yet to think on
a collected working of the whole contry's material. With somepart's yearlong
brake's have i later in time off get me with this wo-
rk and allways have it for my eye's, untill i now, after around in two year's ex-
clusive to have worked with it on my museum-work-time, have got
it anyway from my hand that i have delivered it for printing.

It's not my opinion that the last word should be saying
about vikingage's wepons and not about they's sword. I hope's that
i in the big thing have give the material the right chronologic ta-
sk. But that will anyway with time be a undergo for an
further detailed examination's, and i hope's my self with more close-
scrutiny describe with vikingage material so that can
come closer in to real discusion who have a "good start"
in background. It was anyway my opinion under planning of this-
work also to give a investigation of relation between the archelogical
materialand the old book's. "This intresting conversation have i
anyway in the whole part left out;" but this is my hope that i with
that first maybe can take it to a more deep treatment/investigation/discussion. When
proffesor Scheteligs work about Osebergsfound ornamental is coming out,
will that also be a reson to be closer in on ornam-
ental on sword-hilt's and those speaking who must stand in a
connection.

Spring 1916 did i get from university's traveling-stipendium for to take up
investigation's in museum in Sweden and Denmark. Traveling was just 6
weeks, so any bigger investigation was there not to
take; but i get then a overwieuw over material. I visit oldstuff-
collections in Östersund, Uppsala, Stockholm (Statens historiska museum), Lund,
Gothenburg and Copenhagen (Nationalmuseet). For that lovelinees i
have been meet with from administration and crew, i will give them here my bi-
ggest thanks. In our own contry have i many time's visit oldstuff-
colletion's in Bergen, Stavanger and Trondhjem, anyway have i have reson
to see oldstuff-colletion's in museum's in Arendal, Skien and "De Sand-
vigske" collection's in Lillehammer. Anyway have i don't have any

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reson to visit Tromsö Happy museum, that's why those not few north-
landish material for the most part coming outside this investi-
gation. My work basicly are therefor on my personly investigated of
wepon's in these museum's, and i have checked up the topografic
archive in Univerity Oldstuff-collecting, ther can be found "writing's/reading's" of some
sword who have not come in, butt are in privat owning. Of the Norwegan sword-
material in Nordic Museum in Stockholm have amanuensis S. Ambrosiani
kindly get me photografic admission's, while inspector C.A. Nord-
man have be so lovely to give me reading's of the norwegan sword in National-
museum in Kopenhagen. Equivalent have museum-crew Thorwharson get
me photos of weponsmaterial in Reykjaviks museum. All these
gentlemen thanks i therefor with my heartly's way's.

Likely must i get praise to thank's to crew for the norwegan museum's
oldstuffcollection's for that endeavour they all have show me, And so
crew for Bergens and Tronhjems museum's Oldstuff-collecting's for that
good will they have showed me with "give me" vikingwepon's photos
to my work. Professor Schetelig have also show me the biggest love-
lynes to give me those "well-chosen" drawing's who miss M. Abel in
Bergens Museum one time have made for him, and are printed on the
3 plate's in then of this book. Special must i thanks the crew
in University's Oldstuff-collecting, professor dr. A. W. Brögger Happy for his
allway's encourage in my work and for that big "refutation"
he on resson's have show me in my work. I have
big thanksnees send's i to my friend conservator Helge
Gjessing, who have lovelynees to read try manuscript and
have here under give me alot of good advise, specially with regard to that
linguistic. Mrs Sofie Krafft, University's Oldstuff-collecting's drawer, (Gold star for her, Patrik) have ma-
de all drawings, therefor i bring her my best thanks.

In the end must i give a honorfull thanks to University's jubilee-
foundation and Nansen-foundation's board, who with theys money have made it for me
to get this work from my hand.

I am prepare to that one so strong typologic work like this
can look unattractive for many. Anyway let's hopes, what ever
is maybe are easy to forget, that i in all archeologic reserch must typo-
logic and kronologic be fundamental made, and for our vikingage wepons material
have we not have any fundamental law. I enjoy nerly that an work who
this are have for me look like the most attractive/pleasing, have for
my study's of cultural way's in Norway in vikingage in nescessity
driven forward this kronologic-typeologic investigation of wepons-shapes.
And same time have i yet/still also get pride and happynees with to bring-
forward this great material/work, type after type, the biggest evidence about
that luxuriance and power who stamp/personality the norwegan archeologic vikingage-
material.

May 1919 Jan Petersen

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Frid o Fröjd!
Patrik


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PostPosted: Mon 12 Dec, 2005 7:21 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

AAAAARGH!
Flithy Swedish Hands of Norwegian Viking Swords!
This means WAR!

We have been looking for an excuse to re-conquer Bohuslen, Jemtland and Herjedalen for the last hundred years, and this is it!

SVINFYLKING!

"this [fight] looks curious, almost like a game. See, they are looking around them before they fall, to find a dry spot to fall on, or they are falling on their shields. Can you see blood on their cloths and weapons? No. This must be trickery."
-Reidar Sendeman, from King Sverre's Saga, 1201
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PostPosted: Mon 12 Dec, 2005 8:28 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Many, many thanks Paul and Erik, this is invaluable.
I was knowing only Kristin Noer's partial translation of this book

Jean.
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Patrik Erik Lars Lindblom




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PostPosted: Mon 12 Dec, 2005 9:11 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Elling Polden wrote:
AAAAARGH!
Flithy Swedish Hands of Norwegian Viking Swords!
This means WAR!

We have been looking for an excuse to re-conquer Bohuslen, Jemtland and Herjedalen for the last hundred years, and this is it!

SVINFYLKING!


Eek! Laughing Out Loud You guy's never come longer then to Strömstad, then you forget everything and turn back home again,
and then are you happy that the border are there it are. Wink Laughing Out Loud Cool

Frid o Fröjd!
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PostPosted: Thu 05 Jul, 2007 1:38 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Big Grin That book link works again
De Norske Vikingesverd 120mb

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PostPosted: Fri 06 Jul, 2007 1:59 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

I've made translations of the spear and axe sections, if anyone is interested
"this [fight] looks curious, almost like a game. See, they are looking around them before they fall, to find a dry spot to fall on, or they are falling on their shields. Can you see blood on their cloths and weapons? No. This must be trickery."
-Reidar Sendeman, from King Sverre's Saga, 1201
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PostPosted: Fri 06 Jul, 2007 7:56 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Elling Polden wrote:
I've made translations of the spear and axe sections, if anyone is interested


Does the Pope wear a great big hat???? Laughing Out Loud I'd love to see them. Big Grin

Thanks!!!

Kel
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PostPosted: Fri 06 Jul, 2007 8:29 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Kel Rekuta wrote:

Does the Pope wear a great big hat????


That depends greaty on the time of day; sometimes, he wears this very small, round thing...


http://www.bestsharing.com/files/vH3e0300508/...s.doc.html
http://www.bestsharing.com/files/dKrhE300429/...s.doc.html

"this [fight] looks curious, almost like a game. See, they are looking around them before they fall, to find a dry spot to fall on, or they are falling on their shields. Can you see blood on their cloths and weapons? No. This must be trickery."
-Reidar Sendeman, from King Sverre's Saga, 1201
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PostPosted: Fri 06 Jul, 2007 11:59 am    Post subject: Re: here is a PDF of Pertersen's famous Die Norske Vikingsve         Reply with quote

Paul Mortimer wrote:
http://stud.imma.dk/nils.anderssen/norskesverd.htm

Forgive me if this is old news.

Paul


Thank you.
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PostPosted: Fri 06 Jul, 2007 12:43 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Thanks Elling! Big Grin

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PostPosted: Sun 08 Jul, 2007 9:27 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Big Grin Nice work Elling and thanks to!
I like those new axe pics you have paste in to it,
works fine whit that free OpenOffice to. Cool

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PostPosted: Mon 09 Jul, 2007 6:45 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Thanks. It was a pleasant surprise to find this. Much appreciated.
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PostPosted: Sat 17 Jun, 2017 6:41 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Elling, your links are broken. Do you or anyone else have your translations somewhere?
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