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Leigh A




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PostPosted: Tue 16 May, 2017 6:15 am    Post subject: I need help identifying this weapon with a flame-blade.         Reply with quote

Hello everyone,

I've recently begun researching this sword with a flame blade that I found in my grandfather's basement. Not including the hilt, the blade is 35" long and the hand guard is round, ~6.5" in diameter. Please let me know your thoughts!

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Leigh




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Mark Moore




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PostPosted: Tue 16 May, 2017 6:59 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

I'll go out on a limb and say it's a 19th-early 20th-century reproduction of a Spanish-style rapier. The guard and pommel look like cast metal. Not extremely old. It is an antique, though not overly valuable. I could be wrong about all of that though. Still...Nice find! It should make an interesting show-piece. Happy .....McM
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Mark Moore




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PostPosted: Tue 16 May, 2017 7:32 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

I was able to find an *almost* identical twin to it doing a search under 'Victorian-era swords', but I'm unable to post a photo. The one I found was a piece that was sold by Fagan Arms. Best I can do on that. Worried .....McM
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Daniel Sullivan




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PostPosted: Tue 16 May, 2017 8:01 am    Post subject: Ineed help identifying ....         Reply with quote

Leigh,

During the early 1970s a number of reproduction/decorator items such as this were imported from Spain. Many of these pieces were recognizable as copies from the Royal Armoury at Madrid. Most had the same wire wrapped handles and antiqued rough finish such as yours, Others were available in a polished and decorated manner with a bit of enamel decoration in the hilt area and cord wrapped handles.

None of these pieces had a cutting edge nor a whisper of distal taper as there was never any intent to decieve buyers. They were sold here on the West Coast by a number of "import" shops and even a few furniture stores.

Kind of interesting to see one of these pop up. It is a collectable, but doesn't have any antique value. Use it as intended hang it on the wall ...

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Dan
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Mark Moore




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PostPosted: Tue 16 May, 2017 8:06 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Okay...I was close! Laughing Out Loud ....McM
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Leigh A




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PostPosted: Wed 17 May, 2017 7:21 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Thank you for your replies. Even though it isn't worth much, it is a cool piece to have. It's certainly going up on the wall.

Cheers!
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James Arlen Gillaspie
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PostPosted: Thu 18 May, 2017 11:39 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

How cool! I have loved the original since I saw it many years ago; I think it was owned by Philip II. Obviously, it had more bling than this copy, but I would be thrilled to come across one of these.
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Flavio P.




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PostPosted: Mon 22 May, 2017 9:21 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Yes sadly I have to agree it sounds like a victorian or later copy. however it is a nice one at that.
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