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Leo Todeschini
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 Posted: Fri 28 Oct, 2016 10:19 am Post subject: 4 rondel daggers |
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Hi All,
Here is another set of pictures I forgot to post and I hope you like them. Of course and comments, thoughts or questions, please just fire away.
Here are 4 quite different rondel daggers.
The left hand is bone and horn with a heavily reinforced single edged blade, dated around 1480.
The second from left is all steel with a triangular blade and dated around 1520.
The second from right is a heavy single edged blade, with hollow steel rondels, boxwood grip and iron studs, dated around 1400.
The right hand is a heavily spined double edged blade, with steel rondels, horn grip and spacers and bone grip spacer and dated late 15thC.
Regards
Tod
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K. Robert
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| Posted: Fri 28 Oct, 2016 10:55 am Post subject: |
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Cool, but why are some of these bent?
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Leo Todeschini
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J. Nicolaysen
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Tod, these are absolutely great! I'd happily buy a dagger from you every year, or month, if I could. Every one you do is unique but so perfect.
I don't see these listed on your website right now, though, so I don't have any idea of the prices...
My favorites are the 1st and the 4th. Great blade shape, hilts, everything. But the steel one is really nice too! Ah well...
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Kai Lawson
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That first bone and horn hilt is superb!!!! It looks great! I also very much like the studded grip, with tighter spirals than I've seen before. Great line up!
"And they crossed swords."
--William Goldman, alias S. Morgenstern
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Alex Indman
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Great looking daggers!
Those horn and bone grips shaped as double truncated cones with a thick spacer look really unexpected on a rondel dagger, almost like some Migration era sword grips. But I like the looks.
How was the top part of the horn and bone pommel constructed? Is it glued together out of many horn segments separated by thin bone plates?
Have you tried making sheath so that they expand at the top and enclose the rondel? I gather this was a common design for rondel daggers of the late XVth century.
I tried it once and it was a huge PITA to shape the leather so, even though my rondel was just 1" in diameter. Maybe there is some trick to it...
Alex.
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Jon Makar
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Hi Tod,
Thoroughly enjoy the circa 1400 rondel! The studs in the grip are a beautiful and tactile "touch"! I also enjoy the utilitarian broader, single edged rondel daggers due to their obvious versatility!
Excellent work again,
Jon Makar
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Leo Todeschini
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| Posted: Mon 31 Oct, 2016 1:28 am Post subject: |
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Thanks guys, a great response and very kind words.
J.Nicolaysen wrote | Quote: | I don't see these listed on your website right now, though, so I don't have any idea of the prices...
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These were all around about the £400 point.
Alex Indman wrote | Quote: | Great looking daggers!
Those horn and bone grips shaped as double truncated cones with a thick spacer look really unexpected on a rondel dagger, almost like some Migration era sword grips. But I like the looks.
How was the top part of the horn and bone pommel constructed? Is it glued together out of many horn segments separated by thin bone plates?
Have you tried making sheath so that they expand at the top and enclose the rondel? I gather this was a common design for rondel daggers of the late XVth century.
I tried it once and it was a huge PITA to shape the leather so, even though my rondel was just 1" in diameter. Maybe there is some trick to it...
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The top thick part of the pommel was made from one piece, then there was a layer of bone and then a last layer of horn. The ribs were put in by cutting eight grooves and bonding in bone strips into those and after the whole piece was assembled the shaping and finishing was done.
Yes i have made rondels with cups and here is one from the past http://myArmoury.com/talk/viewtopic.php?t=279...tod+rondel A rather fancy example.
Regards
Tod
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Alex Indman
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That rondel is really fancy! So the "cup" was made as a separate piece and covered by separate pieces of leather. What was the "cup" actually made of, under that thin leather?
In the picture I found in Harold Peterson's book, I am pretty sure the "cup" is stretched out of one piece of leather with the sheath/scabbard. That is how I tried to do it, not very successfully.
Alex.
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This is a standard topic