Mario M. wrote: | ||
I missed that somehow. So, where do I buy the damn materials then? Any Hungarian, Czech or Eastern European sellers still working? |
I have no idea.
Mario M. wrote: | ||
I missed that somehow. So, where do I buy the damn materials then? Any Hungarian, Czech or Eastern European sellers still working? |
Mario M. wrote: |
Anyone had any experience with the ringlord?
I am looking at the carbon steel ring prices and they aren't that bad; http://theringlord.com/cart/shopdisplayproduc...Jump+Rings |
Mario M. wrote: |
I thought they would be good at it by now. |
Dan Howard wrote: |
FWIW these links were initially bright orange with rust. By the time I had completed one row, the links had been abraded so that they were nice and shiny and my lap was covered in rust. It shows that mail doesn't need any maintenance while it is being worn - it is self-cleaning. |
Dan Howard wrote: |
The links are in constant motion while the mail is being worn. The entire link is abraded, not just part of it. Mail does not need cleaning if it is worn regularly. |
Luka Borscak wrote: |
These are the pictures I got from GDFB UK of Ulfberht wedge riveted mail. |
Philip Dyer wrote: |
To Eric: I don't think statement is specfic enough to pin down as being ring or wrong. I person could be wearing a chain mail and just walking around around it it and sitting in chairregularly may still need to clean the shirt because the person isn't most much, thus the rings aren't moving much. But if you to do things in armour that the Roman legions were expected to do, march up hills, dig ditches, build roads, fortificvations, bridges, set up tents, hault items, cut down trees, hard manual labor, I bet you would you almost never need to clean your mail shirt because, barring mosoon levels of rain or weather so hot you sweat proverbial rivers through you clothing and padding, the mail is in a constant state of abrasion. |
Mario M. wrote: | ||
Perhaps you would be interested in this; http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/P12B-Medieval-rivet...qIxZTkmqXQ -scroll down to see larger images The seller is from UK and has over 9500 points on the Bay. Not exactly top notch, but it is a rounded ring construction nonetheless. . |
Luka Borscak wrote: |
In any shirt of mail I ever worn, every rings was free to move a full circle. And every ring probably does given enough moving of the shirt. If it's to clean even the areas around the rivets, I'm not sure. But certainly enough to keep mail clean of rust most of the time on most of the ring surfaces... |
Dan Howard wrote: |
The links are in constant motion while the mail is being worn. The entire link is abraded, not just part of it. Mail does not need cleaning if it is worn regularly. |
Luka Borscak wrote: |
The problem is that the maker is no longer making mail. So if one wants a good quality mail, he has nowhere to go for a relatively affordable price. One shirt from the same maker and same owner, but longer and with long sleeves sold here on myArmoury recently for 700 pounds. This one I payed 450. New they were more expensive of course. |
Eric S wrote: | ||||
Luka, do you or ANYONE else reading this actually believe that this is a completely true and accurate statement or not? There is absolutely NO way that the ENTIRE link is abraded, if you believe this then let your hauberk rust up and try wearing it until it is clean, let us know the results, no matter how long and no matter what you do in it you will still have rust on some parts of the links which will have to be cleaned by an alternate method. Words have meanings and if you say that...."The entire link is abraded"...then you should have some way to prove it. Some parts of the link may be cleaned by wearing it would be an accurate statement but not the entire link. |
Philip Dyer wrote: |
He is basically implying that he has worn his mail shirts regularly and his shirts have cleaned itself via self abrasion. |