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Gordon Alexander




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PostPosted: Sun 06 Mar, 2016 3:16 pm    Post subject: Fencing jacket ventilation via grommets         Reply with quote

I am thinking about putting some 1/2 hole (#4) grommets in my Axel Pettersson jacket so that I suffer heat less. Have any of you done this and have advice about it? Right now I am considering Rolled-Rim Stainless Steel Extended-Neck Teeth Washer grommets from McMaster Carr. Any thoughts?
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PostPosted: Sun 06 Mar, 2016 4:12 pm    Post subject: Re: Fencing jacket ventilation via grommets         Reply with quote

Gordon Alexander wrote:
I am thinking about putting some 1/2 hole (#4) grommets in my Axel Pettersson jacket so that I suffer heat less. Have any of you done this and have advice about it? Right now I am considering Rolled-Rim Stainless Steel Extended-Neck Teeth Washer grommets from McMaster Carr. Any thoughts?


Just to give you a graphic image about what it might look like here attached is something I did in photoshop a few years ago as a concept drawing for a gambison. I also drew a more complex design with extra metal bits for a theoretical fabric and metal reinforced gambison, but not a historical design.

Now I never had this made, but maybe the visuals can be useful for you in deciding if the concept would work for you ?

Not sure how well you can modify an existing fencing jacket versus making or having made a new fencing jacket from scratch as a custom project.



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Grommet only version.

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The more elaboarate version using round headed rivets and metal staples to create a better cut resistant surface.

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Gordon Alexander




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PostPosted: Sun 06 Mar, 2016 4:42 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

I am thinking of just 10-20 for ventilation only. Not for cosmetics or protection.
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Gordon Alexander




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PostPosted: Sun 27 Mar, 2016 12:19 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

I have several of them installed now. It does seem to help keep me from overheating as much, but not as much as I had hoped, yet. I'll probably add six or eight more soon. They have 7/16" holes and I haven't run into a steel training sword yet that passes through even a little.


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Gordon Alexander




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PostPosted: Tue 29 Mar, 2016 4:51 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Okay, I have 26 7/16" hole grommets in it now. At class last night I was notably less overheated. Instead of having a sweat soaked shirt under it at the end, I had one that was only damp in a few places. It was much easier to think when I wasn't so close hyperthermic too. Not sure there was/is any interest in this so I will stop posting about it unless I get a question.


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PostPosted: Tue 29 Mar, 2016 9:26 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

The only production models with ventilation I've seen are the Superior Fencing (sup-fen) model.
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