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Will Phillips
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 Posted: Mon 21 Mar, 2016 8:28 pm Post subject: Mail "Bishop's Mantles" - How Late Were They in Us |
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Just how late were these big mail drapes used in Western/Central Europe?
The Landesknechts used them, but the latest painting/etching/woodcut I've seen of one by them is a 1549 painting by Lucas Cranach the Younger:
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Lucas_Cranach_d.J._-_Die_Predigt_Johannes_des_T%C3%A4ufers_(Herzog_Anton_Ulrich-Museum).jpg
I've seen modern illustrations of light cavalry armed with pistols, helmets, and bishop's mantles supposedly representing late in the 16th or early 17th, but I don't know how historically accurate these illustrations are.
Any ideas or references?
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Shahril Dzulkifli
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| Posted: Wed 23 Mar, 2016 5:50 am Post subject: Mail "Bishop's Mantles" - How Late Were They in Us |
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Bishop's mantle mail? Do you mean the one worn by the person in red as in that Lucas Cranach painting?
“You have power over your mind - not outside events. Realize this, and you will find strength”
- Marcus Aurelius
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Will Phillips
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Yes:
Anyone have evidence of them in use past 1550-ish from period paintings, woodcuts, etchings, or inventory lists?
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Mart Shearer
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I've got nothing, but didn't want you to feel ignored. 
In fact, 1550 seems to be on the tail end of a fading fashion.
ferrum ferro acuitur et homo exacuit faciem amici sui
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This is a standard topic