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Sam Steele
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hello all i am trying to look into english maces in the 14th century but cant really find any.
does anyone have any sources, pictures or locations of these? as i do medieval reenactments and want to improve my knowledge of weapon for shows
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Craig Peters
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J. Nicolaysen
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Here's a review of the Windlass/MRL River Thames Mace reproduction of Craig's photo. The author, Greyson Blair, was also looking for a 14th century mace. http://myArmoury.com/review_mrl_rtmace.html
Arms and Armor used to make a version of this, but have discontinued it. I can't find it on Windlass either. Don't know if this speaks to provenance issues or what. You could always contact A&A and ask them about it.
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Michael Beeching
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A Windlass product currently offered which *may* fit into your timeframe is a bar mace, as seen here:
http://www.museumreplicas.com/p-543-bar-mace.aspx
If this flavor of weapon is appealing to you, it may even be worth considering having someone weld it up for you - maces are not generally made of spring steel, after all.
I think Windlass also used to sell cast mace heads - I'm not sure they do that anymore. However, I think Tod does, and you can see his selection here:
http://www.todsstuff.co.uk/todsfoundry/mace.htm
Do your own hafting, and you've got a quality reproduction at a very reasonable price.
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Shahril Dzulkifli
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Man, that River Thames bar mace looks odd to me. We'll never know how does the real one look like.
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Mark Griffin
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Why does it look weird Sharil? Its certainly a fearsome lump.
The other b&w pic ts pretty similar to the later, more refined germanic ones. Flanges on a shaft...? what happens after that is anyone's guess but I visualise it on a wooden haft. Maybe the shaft extended all the way down.
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J. Nicolaysen
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Just looking at that bar mace makes my head hurt...
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Chad Arnow
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Shahril Dzulkifli
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| Posted: Sat 05 Dec, 2015 4:00 pm Post subject: Mid-14th century maces |
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So that's how a real bar mace supposed to look like. First I thought the mace looks weird due to its form though it isn't.
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Philip Dyer
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| Posted: Sun 06 Dec, 2015 11:16 am Post subject: Re: Mid-14th century maces |
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Any idea why there is a shrunken + section at the end of the bar mace? Any idea why the larger + section doesn't go all the way to the end of the mace?
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Mart Shearer
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Mart Shearer
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Manuscript Miniatures, 1300-1360, Tag: mace
http://manuscriptminiatures.com/search/?year=...anuscript=
There are also a number of wooden or reinforced wood cugels, staves, and clubs which appear in musters as bacculum.
ferrum ferro acuitur et homo exacuit faciem amici sui
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Timo Nieminen
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| Posted: Sun 06 Dec, 2015 3:27 pm Post subject: Re: Mid-14th century maces |
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Any idea why there is a shrunken + section at the end of the bar mace? Any idea why the larger + section doesn't go all the way to the end of the mace? |
Might be used to tie a cord/strap for carrying, or to make it sit nicely in a holder at the saddle, or in a rack for storage. (There are various weapons with features with similar functions, notably weapons without scabbards.)
"In addition to being efficient, all pole arms were quite nice to look at." - Cherney Berg, A hideous history of weapons, Collier 1963.
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Mart Shearer
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Mart Shearer
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The older faceted style remained in use, from the contemporary Oxford Christ Church Ms. 98, fo.73v, Liber de nobilitatibus, sapiencijs et prudencijs regum, 1326-1327, London, England.
http://viewer.bodleian.ox.ac.uk/christchurch/...p;page=153
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ferrum ferro acuitur et homo exacuit faciem amici sui
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This is a standard topic
