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Luka Borscak




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PostPosted: Sun 28 Dec, 2014 3:45 pm    Post subject: Etched Ulfberht?         Reply with quote

I was reading the article about Anglo Saxon swords (Some Neglected Late Anglo-Saxon Swords by David M. Wilson) mentioned in a thread here on myArmoury and came across this line, talking about ulfberht blades:

"Presumably these blades were not all made by the same smith and certainly one of them, the St. Stephen sword from Prague, bears a copy of an Ulfberht inscription etched (not inlaid) on the surface of the blade."
The info is supposedly cited from Dr. R. Pleiner, Prague.

Does anyone know of such an example of an Ulfberht sword, with inscription proven to be etched, rather than inlay just falling out of its place?
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Peter Messent




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PostPosted: Sun 28 Dec, 2014 4:04 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

I'm not personally aware of an etched Ulfberht, but for the record I believe that the inlays on Ulfberht swords are forge-welded iron inlays, unlike brass/copper/etc inlays which are hammered cold into grooves. With that in mind, as far as I'm aware, they do not come out.
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Luka Borscak




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PostPosted: Sun 28 Dec, 2014 4:09 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Yes, they are forge welded and shouldn't come out, but who knows what corrosion can do... It would be really interesting to see the photo of this supposedly etched "inlay"...
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Peter Messent




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PostPosted: Sun 28 Dec, 2014 4:11 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Luka Borscak wrote:
Yes, they are forge welded and shouldn't come out, but who knows what corrosion can do... It would be really interesting to see the photo of this supposedly etched "inlay"...

True indeed, the different corrosion of the steel and iron might indeed allow them to separate. And I agree, a photo would be very interesting indeed - to me it seems that an etched +Ulfberh+t would seem more likely in a more modern knock-off, rather than a contemporary one.
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David Cooper




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PostPosted: Mon 29 Dec, 2014 12:45 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Found this link, don't know if it is any help.
http://www.bohemican.com/the-treasury.html

The journey not the destination
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Luka Borscak




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PostPosted: Mon 29 Dec, 2014 3:28 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Thanks David. I don't know if that is the sword Wilson and Pleiner wrote about but it is certainly an Ulfberht sword I haven't yet seen and it has an interesting hilt, organic I suppose...

EDIT: I found out that the fittings are ivory. Nice.
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