A simple strap tied beneath the chin would work. No need to weave it through the mail. Although not a cervelliere, the sculpture from St. Justina, Padua is clear.

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Another chin strap from the "other" St. Maurice at Bamberg.
http://museum.bamberg.de/uploads/pics/HVB_291a.jpg

Yet sometimes slabs and statuary don't help much either.
http://effigiesandbrasses.com/765/1053/

Mart. When I spoke of weaving a lace through both mail and helm, I was referring to Stephen's thaughts about this image


http://manuscriptminiatures.com/4832/7939/


As I said, I don't see this as a viable means of securing a helm to ones head. I don't see how someone could weave a lace through the holes in the helm, and the links in the coif, while they are on ones head.  Thanks for the additional images of helms with chin straps.  The St Maurice one is particularly nice.


Jason

I got the tightest zoom the UBH has, and I think those might be a lace holding on the aventail rather than the more known vervelles. It seems to me the red lace also appears over the left eye. Thoughts?

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And three examples from the late 14th century Très Belles Heures de Notre Dame de Jean de Berry, BNF NAL 3093. Of course these don't guarantee it's how it was done in earlier decades.
http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b84496839/f199.item
http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b84496839/f207.item
http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b84496839/f212.item

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Thanks again Mart and Stephen. You've both been very helpful. I still can't decide which method I would use, if I ever get the funds to commission one of these early bascinets.

Jason

http://effigiesandbrasses.com/975/3199/

This effigy shows the kind of helm I'm looking for. It also shows an aventail attached to the helm by vervelles. The man it depicts died in 1322, and fought at Bannockburn, so right up my alley time wise. The thing is, his equipment looks to me to be more like 1330-1340. I know that sometimes men's tombs weren't finished until years after there deaths, and their effigys show arms and armour from the time of the stone carving, and not the dead man's lifetime. So what do you guys think, is that the case with this effigy?

Jason

There are a number of effigies ascribed to Humphrey de Bohun (in fact there were 8 or 9 Bohuns of that name). There is a badly damaged effigy in Exeter cathedral, also linked to on the Effigies & Brasses page in a photographic record-
http://www.themcs.org/churches/Devonshire/Exe...2%2059.jpg

The 19th century drawing belongs to another effigy. Perhaps it's the painted Bohun in Hereford, possibly Humphrey de Bohun, 6th Earl of Hereford, 5th Earl of Essex (6 December 1309 – 15 October 1361)?
http://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/3084676

Since the attribution is questionable, so is the dating.

Thanks Mart. I suspect you're right. This effigy is probably miss-attributed to the Humphrey Dr Bohun who died in 1322.

Jason