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Vincent C
Location: Northern VA Joined: 24 Aug 2009
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Posted: Fri 24 Jan, 2014 9:00 am Post subject: Does anyone know where this collection is? |
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One of my friends posted this image on facebook, I have n idea where it is, and neither does he. An images search doesn't turn anything up.
I was wondering if anyone knew where this was?
Seriously, look at those two-handers in the back. Aw yiss.
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Honor, compassion, knowledge.
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Vadim Senicheff
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Posted: Fri 24 Jan, 2014 10:14 am Post subject: |
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I really want to see MOOORE!!
And in my opinion, based on^
a) schiavonesca's
b) ligthing
c) form of showcases
d) location of objects
It's Venetian Arsenal.
https://www.facebook.com/Heldar1989
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Julien M
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Posted: Fri 24 Jan, 2014 10:57 am Post subject: |
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Hard to say as the picture quality is very poor, but it looks modern made to me. There is something completely off about the way these swords are displayed - I've been in a lot of A&A museum, and I've never seen swords piled up like that - in a display that includes shutters.
I may be completely wrong though - just a gut feeling.
Any chance for a higher definition pic?
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Craig Peters
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Posted: Fri 24 Jan, 2014 10:47 pm Post subject: |
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Without a doubt, it is a modern collection. The blades on virtually every sword are pristine, or near pristine, which is effectively impossible for any substantial collection of medieval swords, and certainly not guaranteed even for a collection of Renaissance and early modern swords. But it still is impressive, for size and number of pieces.
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Jeffrey Faulk
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Posted: Fri 24 Jan, 2014 10:51 pm Post subject: |
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I strongly suspect, given the condition of the blades, that rather than a museum or private collection it's actually a set of displays within some sort of store... perhaps at some sort of living-history place given the setting (looks like an old castle perhaps?).
Not that it's impossible for individuals to own so many swords, but honestly. I would have to look at the person a little funny if I actually met someone with THAT many swords!
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Vadim Senicheff
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Posted: Sat 25 Jan, 2014 9:36 am Post subject: |
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This one is made in Doje's Arsenal in Venice by my friend.
I will call a bullshitter anyone who would call those swords modern =)
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Philip Dyer
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Posted: Sat 25 Jan, 2014 9:58 am Post subject: |
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Vadim Senicheff wrote: |
This one is made in Doje's Arsenal in Venice by my friend.
I will call a bullshitter anyone who would call those swords modern =) |
There is a good case for at least the first picture being composed of modern swords. Iron either blackens or rusts is contact with moisture. Even if it does even come in contact with blood, water, sweat, a humid environment and neglect can propagate rust. So even swords made for display would have hard time staying pristine over hundreds of years. They have to be cleaned regularly and kept in humidity controlled environment over those hundreds of years through changing weather, political landscape etc to remain in that good of a condition. Given how careless the metallurgical uneducated can be, I wouldn't be surprised if the museum hired smith to produce copies of swords they in storage so that the public can view the copies and the museum staff can take care of the real thing
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Vadim Senicheff
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Posted: Sat 25 Jan, 2014 10:40 am Post subject: |
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They were not in contact with enything, they were used by venetian army and given back to arsenal, where they were kept for ages. That's why they have such good conditions.
Also, check out Turkish Arsenal, there are also a lot of Venetian swords ans they are in perfect condition since XV century.
Also, a lot of swords were never used, just smithed for the occasion and waited till they were out of style.
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Mark Moore
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Posted: Sat 25 Jan, 2014 11:49 am Post subject: |
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Looks like it might be Will Swiger's living room. ............ .....McM
''Life is like a box of chocolates...'' --- F. Gump
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William Swiger
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Posted: Sat 25 Jan, 2014 11:25 pm Post subject: |
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Mark Moore wrote: | Looks like it might be Will Swiger's living room. ............ .....McM |
It's not that bad - only 154 swords. Over half will be sold when I finish my European assignment and move back to my house in Kentucky.
Think Mike Harris and Dave Kelley are getting up there as well.
Non Timebo Mala
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Chad Arnow
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Posted: Sun 26 Jan, 2014 7:12 am Post subject: |
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Not all ancient swords were once covered with mud, dirt, or rust. There are several places where things survive in amazing condition because the collection was part of a civic armoury (like this) or a family's armoury (like the Churburg collection). In these cases, these items have been cared for (more or less) consistently for centuries. Unlike other museums, in these collections you don't usually find river finds, old church finds, or excavated items. You simply have items with less patina than you'd expect because they were used, then placed back in the armoury to be cared for.
ChadA
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Luka Borscak
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Posted: Sun 26 Jan, 2014 12:53 pm Post subject: |
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William Swiger wrote: | Mark Moore wrote: | Looks like it might be Will Swiger's living room. ............ .....McM |
It's not that bad - only 154 swords. Over half will be sold when I finish my European assignment and move back to my house in Kentucky.
Think Mike Harris and Dave Kelley are getting up there as well. |
Have to save some cash for that day.
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Craig Johnson
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Posted: Mon 27 Jan, 2014 9:20 am Post subject: Venice seems right |
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I think it maybe some display storage in Venice as Vadim has stated.
Look at the similarity to these pics that show the larger grouping
Original pic
An entry on AndromedHa Blog entry
Craig
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