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M Boyd




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PostPosted: Tue 24 Sep, 2013 4:34 pm    Post subject: Temporary weapons of medieval times...         Reply with quote

SNOWBALLS!





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Charles Neeley




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PostPosted: Tue 24 Sep, 2013 8:28 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

I like it, great collection of illustrations!
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Mikko Kuusirati




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PostPosted: Tue 24 Sep, 2013 10:04 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

For some reason, I'm now dying to know just what this one's about! Big Grin



Can anybody translate the text?

"And sin, young man, is when you treat people like things. Including yourself. That's what sin is."
— Terry Pratchett, Carpe Jugulum
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Foong Chen Hong




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PostPosted: Wed 25 Sep, 2013 6:35 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Are they dueling xD

It look like they are actually dueling

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Daniel Wallace




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PostPosted: Wed 25 Sep, 2013 9:55 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

lol, neat.

if its a duel, i wonder how a smack on the ear is rated in the rule book.

or if anyone just said the heck with it and warped snow around a rock and pelted you a good one. WTF?! come on, i can't be the only one that came up with that idea?
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Peter O Zwart




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PostPosted: Wed 25 Sep, 2013 6:33 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

I like the ladies using their dresses to hold their snowballs, they definitely have an advantage there.

Maybe the guy getting pelted by the lady is some kind of honour code; "I'll give you three free shots first!" Ok, I am getting tired....
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Peter O Zwart




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PostPosted: Wed 25 Sep, 2013 6:33 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

I like the ladies using their dresses to hold their snowballs, they definitely have an advantage there.

Maybe the guy getting pelted by the lady is some kind of honour code; "I'll give you three free shots first!" Ok, I am getting tired....
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Peter O Zwart




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PostPosted: Wed 25 Sep, 2013 6:44 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

I like the ladies using their dresses to hold their snowballs, they definitely have an advantage there.

Maybe the guy getting pelted by the lady is some kind of honour code; "I'll give you three free shots first!" Ok, I am getting tired....
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Harry Marinakis




PostPosted: Wed 25 Sep, 2013 7:13 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Those are not snowballs.

They are Holy Hand Grenades of Antioch.
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Mart Shearer




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PostPosted: Wed 25 Sep, 2013 8:27 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Mikko Kuusirati wrote:
For some reason, I'm now dying to know just what this one's about! Big Grin
http://visualiseur.bnf.fr/ConsulterElementNum...mp;Param=C
Can anybody translate the text?


It's from an Italian copy in Latin of ibn Butlân's Tacuinum Sanitatis, BNF NAL 1673 fo 96v, 1390-1400.
http://mandragore.bnf.fr/jsp/feuilleterNotice...p;idPere=5
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tacuinum_Sanitatis
The rubricated Nec et glacies... Nature is roughly "Neither ice and nature", Melior exci would be "better source (of)". I can't decipher all the initials, and the black ink is a bit too faded. Typically it would advise enjoying the weather, whether sunny or cold for best health.

ferrum ferro acuitur et homo exacuit faciem amici sui
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Mikko Kuusirati




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PostPosted: Thu 26 Sep, 2013 12:50 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Mart Shearer wrote:
Mikko Kuusirati wrote:
For some reason, I'm now dying to know just what this one's about! Big Grin
http://visualiseur.bnf.fr/ConsulterElementNum...mp;Param=C
Can anybody translate the text?


It's from an Italian copy in Latin of ibn Butlân's Tacuinum Sanitatis, BNF NAL 1673 fo 96v, 1390-1400.
http://mandragore.bnf.fr/jsp/feuilleterNotice...p;idPere=5
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tacuinum_Sanitatis
The rubricated Nec et glacies... Nature is roughly "Neither ice and nature", Melior exci would be "better source (of)". I can't decipher all the initials, and the black ink is a bit too faded. Typically it would advise enjoying the weather, whether sunny or cold for best health.

A-hah! The Wikipedia article linked me to a facsimile of a different copy, with images, transcripts and translations! To wit:



Nix et glacies.
Complexio: frigida et humida in 3º. Electio: ex aqua dulce et bona. Iuuamentum: meliorat digestionem. Nocumentum: tussim commouet. Remotio nocumenti: bibendo antea modicum. Quid generat: desicationes iucturarem et paralisis. Conueniunt magis calidis iuuenibus estate meridianis regionibus.

Snow and ice.
Nature: cold and wet in the third degree. Optimum: from good, fresh water. Benefit: they improve the digestion. Harm: they cause coughs. Remedy for harm: drinking moderately beforehand. Effects: dehydrated joints and paralysis. Most advisable for hot [temperaments], youth, in summer and in southern regions.

(Obviously, the language is slightly different and the last two sentences are omitted from the originally posted copy.)

Aww, not one word of what caused the scene. Hmm. Perhaps the young man has been refusing to take his medication? She's forcefully treating him for anger management issues? This is for your own good, you ingrate, now stop dodging and take it like a man!

"And sin, young man, is when you treat people like things. Including yourself. That's what sin is."
— Terry Pratchett, Carpe Jugulum
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Iagoba Ferreira





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PostPosted: Thu 26 Sep, 2013 2:17 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

I have yet to see a medieval dated one. They may be an iconographical invention, we may be misidentifying the material (flour, clay...), or it has some symbolic meaning that we may not be able to understand. Confused

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